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    It's a strain because you depend on 7 other people to NOT run ahead with a different group and clear content. This screws the "static" because the person is either selfish or impatient, or is helping friends with content. Either way it screws people over in the end. Yeah it causes strain on friendships, groups, etc.

    There is nothing wrong with SE letting players go into the turn and as soon as the turn is complete they are LOOT locked for the week. That doesn't change. This next part is the change...ALLOW players to renter the content without any loot rewards....it's revolutionary... So revolutionary DC Universe Online has been doing it for over a year now with their 8 man groups.

    There is no reason for players to not be able to renter and play content solely to help others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    There is no reason for players to not be able to renter and play content solely to help others.
    Except that this would allow for players to be carried, and open up the content for merc runs.

    Nope.

    I don't think you understand the concept that it is restricted to this degree on purpose, and that it does indeed restrict the loot as well as the number of players who clear it quite effectively whilst promoting long-term teams to be formed.
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    Last edited by NoctisUmbra; 03-10-2014 at 01:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    It's a strain because you depend on 7 other people to NOT run ahead with a different group and clear content. This screws the "static" because the person is either selfish or impatient, or is helping friends with content. Either way it screws people over in the end. Yeah it causes strain on friendships, groups, etc.
    So you want a "selfish or impatient" person in a group with you for all content? Last I remembered, a static was a set group of people that you got together and completed an objective with. If somebody was running off and doing stuff on their own, knowing that they would not be able to do it later with you, then that's not really a static in my opinion. That's an unreliable member that should be replaced anyways.

    The way it looks to me is that you are too dependant on your "friends" and fc to run with you and if they happen to run with their other "friends", you got your feelings hurt. You weren't put on a blacklist, you weren't ignored, you weren't sent to a corner with a dunce hat. Just a static was formed with a set of people and it didn't include you for a set of dungeons because of game mechanics.

    Just to put it out there, I'm not against removing player lockouts. I just don't see how, just because you aren't able to run a few dungeons with certain people puts a strain on your friendship while there are still content in the game that you are able to play with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illuminapanic View Post
    So you want a "selfish or impatient" person in a group with you for all content? Last I remembered, a static was a set group of people that you got together and completed an objective with. If somebody was running off and doing stuff on their own, knowing that they would not be able to do it later with you, then that's not really a static in my opinion. That's an unreliable member that should be replaced anyways.

    The way it looks to me is that you are too dependant on your "friends" and fc to run with you and if they happen to run with their other "friends", you got your feelings hurt. You weren't put on a blacklist, you weren't ignored, you weren't sent to a corner with a dunce hat. Just a static was formed with a set of people and it didn't include you for a set of dungeons because of game mechanics.

    Just to put it out there, I'm not against removing player lockouts. I just don't see how, just because you aren't able to run a few dungeons with certain people puts a strain on your friendship while there are still content in the game that you are able to play with them.
    I actually orginize our free company statics - the shot caller if you will. My feelings aren't hurt, that people went to go help,others. It makes it hard for the 7 people left behind to pick up the slack, esp on t5 wher you have to re teach players. We changed our raiding days to strict tue/Thursday t1-5 and t5 thrusday. Sunday is a fun day..you wanna go kill it
    Twin in Sunday that on them since see resets Monday.
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    Its really hard for smallers FC's to have a Player Lockout. I would prefer a Loot-Lockout too over the actual System.

    There are plently FC's out there who want it to be familar within the FC..so they dont want 100+ Players to get 4+ Static Groups (Downside is : The Family Part goes down the Sewer very fast). Many FC's have working Peoples with Shifts. Allone these two Points are speaking for Loot-Lockouts.

    And you cannot say : Then they are dont made to do the HighEnd Stuff. Why not ? because every single Player pays for the Game.
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