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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    If I remember correctly, one of the arguments against "repair all" was economical - basically, anyone could repair anything at a profit, whether or not you had the appropriate class. But now that we can't repair other people's gear it's solely a matter of self-sufficiency.

    That said, if the immersion folks want to tediously repair their own equipment, let them. Give the rest of us a repair-all feature.
    Well, I'm not sure who these 'immersion folks' are or if they even still exist, and not one has popped up in this thread yet. But when I read that question, I thought more along the lines of 'economical'.

    I feel a good chuck of the voters were also thinking more along the lines economics rather than immersion. There was no indication during the poll that player to player repair service would have been removed.
    Such as you've stated, repairs was a profit when we could help others repair. It was really one of the only few useful distinction between the crafts to provide a service other players. Otherwise, might as well have one crafting class to do everything.

    Since that service doesn't even exist any longer, and there doesn't seem to be any mention of returning it, it is only a nuisance to have to switch to the appropriate class for self-repairs.

    Just in case if anyone happens to show up later that argues that it isn't that big of a deal. Here's a run down of my usual repair regiment.
    1. Check each item for repair type
    2. Switch to class to repair said item
    3. Can't switch class, is your armory full?
      Yes, clean up armory, and return to (2).
      No, continue on repairing (4).
    4. Do you still have more different class items to repair?
      Yes, jump to back to (2).
      No, you're done -> (6)
    5. Did you finish repairing all your gear?
      Yes, I'm done -> (6)
      No, I've missed something. Jump back to (2).
    6. I'm done.

    How this any different when you're repairing other people's gear?
    It's because you normally don't repair everything for them.

    Back when it was still possible, you would have multiple people repair your gear at one of the market alleys. Usually the crafter would just be sitting there on their class doing their crafting business. If you by any chance need repairs on their class, they would do it for you. On the off chance someone might switch class to repair for you, but most of the time you can't switch classes fast enough to take up their offer.

    Out on the field, repairs occur outside of dungeon instances. Again multiple people would help you repair your gear. But, in this case there might be less competition, so it's entirely possible that one person could have swept up all the repair profits. Still it's really whoever could have grabbed them fast enough.
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    Last edited by lackofwords; 03-07-2014 at 10:05 AM.

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    I disagree.

    There is already a Repair All, granted is needed on the Craft it self. if you didnt know you can open it up with the action button in the Action & Trait menu > Repair set to hot bar, opens a menu to repair, and repair all on the category.

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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    I disagree.

    There is already a Repair All, granted is needed on the Craft it self. if you didnt know you can open it up with the action button in the Action & Trait menu > Repair set to hot bar, opens a menu to repair, and repair all on the category.

    Nice, though not to confuse the two different repairs gripes people had, like I and few had earlier.

    Sotek's and my gripe was against having to switch classes.
    While the OP's gripe was going to mender and having no option to repair all, instead of having to go through dropdowns like "equipped", "weapons" etc.

    Was there an option to just repair everything, including equipped and inventory at the same time? I think that was what the OP wanted when going to the NPC Mender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lackofwords View Post
    Nice, though not to confuse the two different repairs gripes people had, like I and few had earlier.

    Sotek's and my gripe was against having to switch classes.
    While the OP's gripe was going to mender and having no option to repair all, instead of having to go through dropdowns like "equipped", "weapons" etc.

    Was there an option to just repair everything, including equipped and inventory at the same time? I think that was what the OP wanted when going to the NPC Mender.
    is the same as Repair NPC but you will need to be in the appropriate class to repair all.
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    I agree with OP, I wish this option was in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lackofwords View Post
    I knew this issue was going to pop up. What I wish they have asked, was whether or not if we have to actually literally switch to the class.
    I would have voted no to the required class switch, but they didn't ask the right question.
    Honestly, I think Yoshi's conclusion was pretty valid.

    I wouldn't mind not having to change classes for repairs, but given the choice, I do prefer the immersion of having to be on the correct class to do repairs.
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    As far as the NPC repair goes, it takes like 3-4 extra seconds to shift between the 4 tabs.

    Would it be a nice little quality of life improvement? Sure.

    There are a lot of other things I'd like to see fixed before they spend time on this though.


    Just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    is the same as Repair NPC but you will need to be in the appropriate class to repair all.
    The "Repair All" option only repairs all from the selected group (equipped, main/off, etc). OP is asking for a real "Repair All" that repairs everything in the armoury chest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lackofwords View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...922.1391594196

    I knew this issue was going to pop up. What I wish they have asked, was whether or not if we have to actually literally switch to the class.
    I would have voted no to the required class switch, but they didn't ask the right question.
    Yeah given the questions they asked I would have gone with the majority vote as well. It's really only the class switching that needs to be changed, it would be really handy if I could just repair my armor because I have the appropriate DoH job leveled, regardless of my currently equipped job. To be honest, until they make a change like that I will keep using the vendor rather than repairing my own gear since it's a lot more convenient, even without a repair all button.

    P.S. There is no sotek in this thread :P
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    Last edited by DoctorPepper; 03-08-2014 at 01:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
    I just want to be able to repair other people's gear again ><
    This so much. I don't craft, so constantly fixing my gear makes my wallet cry. I really really miss being able to ask my shellmates to fix my gear.
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