Please give archer a dagger.

[Delmontyb]

With the new info coming out this morning that archers auto attack will use their bare fists, I'd like to ask that with the planned adjustments down the line, to give them a dagger that they will use for auto attack.

I wouldn't think any archer would want to damage their bare fists hitting some mob which would make it impossible to fire a bow later (lore).

You could do this in one of two ways.

1. Allow them to equip a dagger in their sub slot and only use it within auto attack range.
2. Or make the dagger be apart of a set along with the bow itself.

I vote for option 1.

Anyway, looking forward to the changes, keep up the good work.

[Petori]

I don't think archers will go for auto-attack unless they are out of arrows. But yes dagger would be nicer than pummeling them.

[AlexiaKidd]

No way Pimp Slap ftw ^^

Or as Gath suggested in the other thread, shank them with arrows ^^

[Delmontyb]

No way Pimp Slap ftw ^^

Or as Gath suggested in the other thread, shank them with arrows ^^

I like the shanking them with arrows, like Legolas in lord of the rings.

[Corrderio]

I like the shanking them with arrows, like Legolas in lord of the rings.

But shanking with an arrow is OP.

[Kallera]

With the new info coming out this morning that archers auto attack will use their bare fists, I'd like to ask that with the planned adjustments down the line, to give them a dagger that they will use for auto attack.

I wouldn't think any archer would want to damage their bare fists hitting some mob which would make it impossible to fire a bow later (lore).

You could do this in one of two ways.

1. Allow them to equip a dagger in their sub slot and only use it within auto attack range.
2. Or make the dagger be apart of a set along with the bow itself.

I vote for option 1.

Anyway, looking forward to the changes, keep up the good work.

I say option 1 too.

Also, in b4 leglolas comparisons. Say goodbye!!

[Gidonoidon_Sur]

Be interesting to see how this pans out with the 1 weapon = 1 class limitations currently. Plus, they haven't mentioned this issue specifically in any past letters/commentary, that I know of.

[Amas]

No.

Screw any melee attack.

SE should have done exactly what every other MMO does for a bow-wielding class, and make the freaking arrow the auto attack.

The crappiest part about playing RNG in FFXI was spamming /ra to do any freaking damage (unless you're KC RNGing, but let's be honest... most people, and most posters here, were never KC RNGs).

The crappiest part about playing ARC in FFXIV will be spamming various ranged abilities (now with cooldown, herp derp!).

It puts a job that already has to pay to play at a serious disadvantage on the DD perspective because your efficiency is tied entirely to how close you're paying attention and how little time you leave on the table between possible attack rounds.

Arrows are not something that drives the economy. Replace them with bottomless quivers of a type (e.g. Red Coral Quiver), abolish limited ammunition, and just make Light Shot the default RNG auto-attack.

[Corrderio]

No.

Screw any melee attack.

SE should have done exactly what every other MMO does for a bow-wielding class, and make the freaking arrow the auto attack.

The crappiest part about playing RNG in FFXI was spamming /ra to do any freaking damage (unless you're KC RNGing, but let's be honest... most people, and most posters here, were never KC RNGs).

The crappiest part about playing ARC in FFXIV will be spamming various ranged abilities (now with cooldown, herp derp!).

It puts a job that already has to pay to play at a serious disadvantage on the DD perspective because your efficiency is tied entirely to how close you're paying attention and how little time you leave on the table between possible attack rounds.

Arrows are not something that drives the economy. Replace them with bottomless quivers of a type (e.g. Red Coral Quiver), abolish limited ammunition, and just make Light Shot the default RNG auto-attack.

This, a thousand times this. I still want to hear an actual good excuse as to why AAing with a bow is a bad thing.

[Vanguard319]

This, a thousand times this. I still want to hear an actual good excuse as to why AAing with a bow is a bad thing.

you want a good excuse, here is a good excuse:
Archer is the ONLY class that is dependant on a limited amount of ammunition, once it runs out, you are down to a crappy stone throw that will maybe critical for 3 dmg. It is also one of the few classes where your damage and accuracy is affected by positioning. Auto Attack would burn through your ammunition at a fast pace, and would leave you no time to re-position if needed. Also, AA would cancel out the bind status caused by Shadowbind and close shot, meaning that the class would lose it's ability to solo.

There, THREE good reasons why ranged attacks should never be AA, don't like it, stick with your pointy stick thing. As for the unlimited quivers argument, FFXI had the same system, and I have yet to hear people whine about how it was unfair for rng to be one of the best dds and have a dependancy on ammunition to balance out that capability. Again, you don't like it, don't play it.