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  1. #191
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    Archer's shouldn't be up close at melee range IMO
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  2. #192
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    eh....if multishot is untouched then i'll finish the fight before it even starts...wont need a Melee attack :P
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    'United we stand, Divided they fall'

  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    fighting with an arrow will in general be weaker than fighting h2h, it will basically ruin or break most arrows, and destroy thier fitness as a weapon, it would also take too long to get it into a decent fighting position. You get the same problem with a dagger, though it is designed better, and with the right type of sheathe you can probably get it out decent speed. but the fist will adapt the fastest between firing and fighting, requring no sheathing at all.

    But its still pretty weak, and most likely the damage will either be based on the bow only, or the arrow only, or neither.
    well of course over a long fight, i wouldnt just use the arrow outright, but as a reaction id use that, by then id be able to get back to w/e fight form i so choose. Its still a video game, so they can do what they want and not have to be realistic about it....i dont want realistic, i want a fantasy video game.
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    Yeah I dont get how 3 classes in the game can equip shield, and be defensive/offencive with it. Seems to work pretty well.

    Why add not a complimentary sub-weapon for ALL classes. Nunchucks for PUG is a GREAT idea for one :3
    Equipping a shield gives you the secondary class "Sentinel."

    Furthermore, auto-attacking as an archer?

    -It would waste arrows if it was a ranged auto-attack.
    -If it was infinite, weak arrows, you could just power them up with all your buffs and such and have free arrows.
    -Archers should be less "LET'S SPAM EVERYTHING" and more "let's get the strongest shot possible at the perfect moment."
    -The difference between using a dagger and a fist would be purely visual.
    -Gladiators already use daggers, so they'd have to take them off Gladiators
    -A thief class should be using daggers
    -It would generate enmity in parties and you don't want that
    -It would waste your buffs on auto-attacks rather than skills

    EDIT: As for "both CON and THM use staffs and wands"

    THM uses scepters and staffs, Con uses radicals and wands.
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    Last edited by SuzakuCMX; 07-02-2011 at 10:10 AM.

  5. #195
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    There was one suggestion I think would be good, make it when an Archer equips a bow they sort of wear a one-handed cesti or bladed knuckle-like object. You know, sort of like a glove, but has a small spike on the end of it so you can effectively "stab" an enemy with your free hand when up close. Auto-attack for Archers should still do a decent amount of damage maybe 60% of our regular attack power now with an unbuffed single light shot arrow with a very short delay. Hopefully the recast timer between using Light, Close, and Heavy Shots won't be very long, or shared. As it stands my regular arrows (unbuffed) do about the same if not a little more than what I've seen a lancer I duo with do in a regular attack.
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  6. #196
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    i vote no.
    why should arc need a melee atk?
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I'm starting to question if anyone in this thread has ever used a Bow and Arrow..

    1. You can't use a bow like a club, you wont be able to grip it right
    2. If you want to rapidly pull out a dagger you would have to throw your bow or arrow to the ground to use it
    3. If something ran at you while you were preparing to draw an arrow you would either shoot them or punch them, you would not look for a second weapon...

    I know its a Fantasy Game people, but it still has to ad hear to some laws of physics..
    Not like a club, more like a bow staff.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I'm starting to question if anyone in this thread has ever used a Bow and Arrow..

    1. You can't use a bow like a club, you wont be able to grip it right
    2. If you want to rapidly pull out a dagger you would have to throw your bow or arrow to the ground to use it
    3. If something ran at you while you were preparing to draw an arrow you would either shoot them or punch them, you would not look for a second weapon...

    I know its a Fantasy Game people, but it still has to ad hear to some laws of physics..

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  10. #199
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    I still say they should kick 'em back Bulletstorm style for their auto-attack.
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  11. #200
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    Zanfire Leoz
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    i still say beat um in the face with the bow like the pink ranger does in the SNES power ranger game. Beaten some arse she did.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znzS6g9Q8v8
    3:20 ~ if you want to see the pownage lol.
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