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  1. #51
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    therpgfanatic's Avatar
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    Charlemagne Martell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    Some people would rather always blame the player first than acknowledge a game's faults and shortcomings. Sure you learn to adapt to them and some might even feel proud about it but I'd rather things worked properly in the first place and not have to jiggle the camera and mash A until it finally targets what I want, and yes that's an exaggeration, there's not that much jiggling involved.
    I agree.

    They don't seem to realize it, but their instructions on how to fiddle with the camera are only acknowledging that the Locksmith encounter has a different set of challenges for PS3 players that PC users do not experience because there are problems with the targeting system.

    If there was no problem you wouldn't need to do something special to successfully target a fruit.

    Some players just want to take any chance they get to try to show how elite they are, rather than engage in constructive discussion on how to improve an encounter that has issues.
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  2. #52
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    Pooky_Pasha's Avatar
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    Pooky Pasha
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    Also what does he want from us? We're giving him tips and he's firing them down. And getting immediately offended at our criticism and blaming the game. You said it yourself you work with what you got. Well this is how we make it work. It's not perfect I admit that but it works.
    If you go through and look at almost every post he's made here in General Discussion and Tank forums (I visit these quite a bit, so I've read a lot of them), this is his habit. Every thing is the fault of bad mechanics, bad game design, bad whatever with everything but his ability to adapt and improve. There's never anything he can do to improve because the mechanics or design is so utterly terrible they need to be overhauled at his whim. Even though most people don't seem to have the problems he does, or have improved their gameplay to negate these problems.
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  3. #53
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    Delorean's Avatar
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Well you guys are probably thinking that he is standing right next to the fruit and trying to get it then losing aggro.

    I don't think that is the case as they have expressed the auto target frequently targets fruit for them that is very far away. It's definitely possible to lose some threat running all over the place like that and even though I'm pretty sure I could manage it just fine, I think the biggest issue here is probably the amount of time it takes them to pick up a fruit.
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  4. #54
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    Zhi Azraelia
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by therpgfanatic View Post
    I am not a bad tank. I have commendation achievements, and my only 50 is a Paladin. I have tanked up to T4. Fight or Flight is on a macro with Fast Blade. I know how to play my class.

    Please stop insulting my intelligence.
    I've gotten commendations for leaving a macro on and watching anime . Means absolutely nothing.
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  5. #55
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    Lyana's Avatar
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    Ny'meria Hemera
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    Phoenix
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    Archer Lv 90
    Targeting on ps3 is extremely simple actually. When you want to target the nearest fruit for exemple you push... X button! So hard...
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  6. #56
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    Kezy Kaatapoh
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by therpgfanatic View Post
    I'm not asking for help on how to deal with the crappy targeting. As the design stands, I'll never run it ever again.

    If you agree the targeting is crappy, why not support changing the encounter so the crappy targeting no longer causes people distress?
    Yes, the targeting system with controllers is rough. I don't think anyone disagrees there. But the fact of the matter is that there is a very easy workaround that you can use in AV so that it isn't an issue, and it doesn't inhibit your ability to play in the slightest. I agree the targeting is crappy, but I will never support changing the encounter because it's perfectly doable and no detriment to your ability as it stands. I have never heard of anyone having this problem and I know plenty of people who have tanked it on PS3 (myself included).

    You can't make a thread asking if people agree with you then blow up and ignore the dissenting opinion. It won't end well. Especially when you're arguing something that can easily be worked around for all current content in the game (although it does need to be fixed).
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    Last edited by Kezy_Kaatapoh; 03-07-2014 at 02:17 PM.

  7. #57
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    Zhi Azraelia
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    Oh grats on axe ln~ or did noel steal from you?
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  8. #58
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    Some people would rather always blame the player first than acknowledge a game's faults and shortcomings.
    It's not about hey look at how great I am and how bad you are. It's about getting results realistically.

    What is going to yield better results... whining until something changes or trying to create a workaround? What kind of FC would BG be if they whined Twisters were too hard to dodge for 3 months instead of trying to dodge them?

    Make a suggestion to change something, go ahead. But don't hold your breath for it. Don't act like someone just threw a moldy diaper at you when they tell you that there are other, better, more efficient ways of solving your problem than asking someone else to make your problem stop existing.

    That's all that I'm saying.

    Oh grats on axe ln~ or did noel steal from you?
    dbl war twin kill too OP

    no, i was the only one who could roll on it
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  9. #59
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    Sigmund Felsword
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    AV is easy. This is coming from a SCH on PS3 btw.
    How do you deal with stacks on your pet? Last I remember when you at a fruit it didn't affect your pet and they would die so fast.
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  10. #60
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    Doctor Pepper
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    How do you deal with stacks on your pet? Last I remember when you at a fruit it didn't affect your pet and they would die so fast.
    This is why we have swiftcast :P you should invest in it if you haven't already. Not sure there is much else you can do about it in those fights.
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