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    [Petition] Change the fruits in Aurum Vale. No one wants to go to AV.

    I have tanked everything up to Turn 4, but I'm pretty sure Aurum Vale is the worst dungeon in the game. I and other players refuse to go into it. I absolutely despised this encounter when I had to go through it as part of the story mode, and any time DF comes up with it I wait the timer out to abandon.

    The problem is the first boss fight. I and many other players use the Playstation 3 version of the game. This means we're playing with a controller.



    It is nearly impossible to select a fruit to remove the debuff stacks using a controller. This is because the game's target selection system has a horrid habit of attempting to select fruits that are out of range of your character (even at the back of the room!) before you can select the fruit sitting directly in front of your character. As a tank, I tend to die or lose aggro while trying to select a fruit sitting right in front of me.


    The first time I attempted this dungeon, I wiped numerous times. People kept abandoning. I spent 4 hours trying to clear the dungeon until I finally managed to get super lucky and click on a fruit to clear the debuffs. Once.

    For the good of the game, please change the way the fruits operate in the Locksmith fight. Make it so a character can walk into the fruit in order to trigger the cleanse effect.

    There is no reason for the difficulty of the encounter to be based on the algorithm flaws of the targeting system for console players.

    Anyone who agrees, please speak up and maybe the developers will listen. This is such a minor fix that could make a huge difference. This is the only part of the game where it was clear I had to have a mouse.

    Edit: Do not respond giving advice about changing filters. Obviously if I am talking about the game selecting a fruit that is no where near my character, my filters are set to be able to select the fruits. That isn't the issue.
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    Last edited by therpgfanatic; 03-07-2014 at 06:04 AM.

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    Denevieve Nebilim
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    AV is easy. This is coming from a SCH on PS3 btw.
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    What is "this means we're playing with a controller" supposed to mean? Zhi and Lute play with controllers and killed all the content in the game months ago.
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    I play on PS3 and AV is actually one of my favorite dungeons. No need to change it. The fruit is not hard to target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    AV is easy. This is coming from a SCH on PS3 btw.
    I'm pretty sure that Scholars aren't tanks, so if it takes you a little extra time to get a fruit it's not going to wipe the party.

    Tanks have to maintain aggro. It's different. And then if we lose it because we were trying to target a fruit, we have to toggle through all the fruits to finally get back on the boss. By then it's a wipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by therpgfanatic View Post

    It is nearly impossible to select a fruit to remove the debuff stacks using a controller.
    No it isn't. I've tanked, healed and DPSed AV many times...never had issues with eating fruit on either boss.

    Yes, I play on the PS3 and with a controller.

    I'm guessing you changed targeting settings so you only target enemies in battle, which could cause this issue...so check those.
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    I beat it using controller and I have no idea what you're talking about.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by therpgfanatic View Post
    I'm pretty sure that Scholars aren't tanks, so if it takes you a little extra time to get a fruit it's not going to wipe the party.

    Tanks have to maintain aggro. It's different.
    lol

    If you're struggling to maintain aggro at the time you eat fruit...I hate to break it to you but you need to work on your tanking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    No it isn't. I've tanked, healed and DPSed AV many times...never had issues with eating fruit on either boss.

    Yes, I play on the PS3 and with a controller.

    I'm guessing you changed targeting settings so you only target enemies in battle, which could cause this issue...so check those.
    1. No, I changed my settings to allow me to grab the fruits. As I mentioned in the post, it the targeting system is grabbing fruits that are no where near my character before it grabs the one directly in front of my character.

    2. When is the last time you did the encounter?

    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    lol

    If you're struggling to maintain aggro at the time you eat fruit...I hate to break it to you but you need to work on your tanking...
    Oh great. Insult the player for the deficiencies of the game.

    No tank can maintain aggro if he has to STOP everything he is doing and try to toggle through a dozen things, all while DPS keeps attacking and the healer keeps healing. If the tank stops generating threat while fighting with the game controls, but everyone else keeps using abilities, the tank will lose threat no matter how much lead he has.

    Anyone who uses the PS3 version knows there are targeting issues. Why anyone would say there isn't any problems, I don't know.

    http://ffxivrealm.com/threads/target...s-on-ps3.7760/
    http://ffxivrealm.com/threads/tanking-and-the-ps3.7571/
    http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...75297111548569
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/67805...eborn/67065852

    There's like hundreds of these threads about the PS3 targeting going nuts, do a Google Search. It's not about the filters. It's about the targeting system ignoring distance in certain situations.

    I can tolerate the problems in other fights but this one fight, it becomes a massive hurdle.
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    Last edited by therpgfanatic; 03-07-2014 at 05:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
    What is "this means we're playing with a controller" supposed to mean? Zhi and Lute play with controllers and killed all the content in the game months ago.
    Wave went back to kb a while ago I think, but nam is on controller
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