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    Come on SE,give us some HD texture,even the Wiiu could do better,dont let the wiiu do better than you come on
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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    You guys sure have high hope in SE. They can't find solutions to keep their game alive at first, HD texture is probably their lowest priority, alongside the forever asked glamour log. Because doing things for casus is more important than listening to the community.
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    The better the textures, the higher the requirements, the less players.

    In F2P games, it's actually easier. The people that keep the game going are the RICH people that have high-end PC's anyway. They won't suddenly be left out. In a largely subscription-dependent game like this however, you increase the system requirements and you instantly lose a noticeable chunk of your income.

    People simply won't invest in a new, powerful computer just to play a single game, over paying their bills, buying food and stuff. And all of that while still having to pay the subscription every month, which in some areas of the world is a much bigger chunk of their monthly budget than in others.

    Unless it would be absolutely optional and not affect people that choose not to use it at all (basically, requiring double the work for EVERYTHING that was ever made or will ever be made), the only upgrades are likely to be touch-ups gotten from optimalization...or on clients side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    The better the textures, the higher the requirements, the less players.
    Texture resolution is always optional. It'd just be something to check in the settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galka_Rock View Post
    Texture resolution is always optional. It'd just be something to check in the settings.
    And as I said, that would require double the work. You can say all you want that the textures can be made high and then lowered in resolution automatically, but not only that takes a lot of time when you have so many textures, but the automatic resolution lowering systems are erratic. The output needs to be modified by humans anyway...or you get textures with the same resolution as now that are even worse than that.

    Besides, I've seen games that are so poorly optimized, that their "optional" graphical features, even if turned off, were still draining resources. So yes...Sorry, but I don't think that it's a good idea to actually upgrade MMO games graphics by any significant amount, even with "optional" features, unless it's done on the clients side through taking advantage of new hardware or drivers/frameworks features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    .

    Besides, I've seen games that are so poorly optimized, that their "optional" graphical features, even if turned off, were still draining resources. So yes...Sorry, but I don't think that it's a good idea to actually upgrade MMO games graphics by any significant amount, even with "optional" features, unless it's done on the clients side through taking advantage of new hardware or drivers/frameworks features.
    Still doesn't work that way. Having an option for high resolution textures doesn't magically make the game less optimised for everyone else. Also, being an apologist just encourages devs to be lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    You guys sure have high hope in SE. They can't find solutions to keep their game alive at first, HD texture is probably their lowest priority, alongside the forever asked glamour log. Because doing things for casus is more important than listening to the community.
    It's FF14. The community IS casual.

    Also I love how people are saying "If you had HD textures, less people will be able to run it." Like it's only going to have one setting. You know you can toggle options, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    You guys sure have high hope in SE. They can't find solutions to keep their game alive at first, HD texture is probably their lowest priority, alongside the forever asked glamour log. Because doing things for casus is more important than listening to the community.
    14 runs on an extremely tight budget. Anything excess is either used by SE to fund their other projects, or is reinvested into the cash shop to fund other projects. It took several years of Yoshida badgering his superiors to get access to the money needed for the server relocation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    14 runs on an extremely tight budget. Anything excess is either used by SE to fund their other projects, or is reinvested into the cash shop to fund other projects. It took several years of Yoshida badgering his superiors to get access to the money needed for the server relocation.
    Which is what i said. We're paying our sub not for the game development but other SE's project. I mentioned SE in my post, not the FFXIV team. This game dies because not all of our money is invested in it, only a small part, which I find kinda scandalous.
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    Optional HD texture pack.

    It woudn't take much resources from them to create such pack (I'm sure they already have the textures in an incredibly high resolution, they just compress them to make it less resource intensive), and It would make some people happy.
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