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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakiraka View Post
    It kinda breaks my heart when I think of how much Musketeers have been shafted the past few years. The worse part is people are talking about introducing other classes and have basically allocated Musketeer to "oh well that doesn't count because it should be in game already" ... except it isn't. It probably won't be either if people continue to show such a lack of interest albeit it is understandable considering the borderline disgusting wait most have been subjected to.

    I used to love Berserk and couldn't wait for the next installment but after 8 years of being on a boat, I started to loose interest. I feel like this is what is happening to the Musketeer.
    It's certainly killing me. I remember in early launch of 1.0, running around Limsa, trying to figure out how to join guilds. Funny that how I thought we joined guilds back then is how we actually do it in 2.0.

    But there I was, running around in the Coral Tower, talking to every single NPC. I couldn't find the guy who'd let me join, so I went online to look it up. The game had only just come out so there wasn't much. Someone mentioned I needed to just equip the weapon, so I went hunting for a gun.

    Hurts to this day.
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    It's certainly killing me. I remember in early launch of 1.0, running around Limsa, trying to figure out how to join guilds. Funny that how I thought we joined guilds back then is how we actually do it in 2.0.

    But there I was, running around in the Coral Tower, talking to every single NPC. I couldn't find the guy who'd let me join, so I went online to look it up. The game had only just come out so there wasn't much. Someone mentioned I needed to just equip the weapon, so I went hunting for a gun.

    Hurts to this day.
    Don't worry, Llen. If we don't get MSK with patch 2.2 then it will surely be soon. Just ignore the Musketeer doubters that you come across. Yoshi P and SE know they must implement MSK, it is only a matter of time.

    And I am sure they (SE) knew very well what they were doing when shared this image of Merlwyb!... Patch 2.2 included or not, they are building hype up for soon to be Musketeers! And it must be working... for I am now more interested in this class then I ever was before!
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkiller View Post
    Don't worry, Llen. If we don't get MSK with patch 2.2 then it will surely be soon. Just ignore the Musketeer doubters that you come across. Yoshi P and SE know they must implement MSK, it is only a matter of time.

    And I am sure they (SE) knew very well what they were doing when shared this image of Merlwyb!... Patch 2.2 included or not, they are building hype up for soon to be Musketeers! And it must be working... for I am now more interested in this class then I ever was before!
    Yes, surely it will be "Soon™". R-right guys? ...guys?


    /hangself
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    Meh, I think if they "really" wanted musketeers in the game anytime soon then they would have put them in the game at 2.0 launch. They have had PLENTY of time to make it happen. It's not like they don't have or can't get the skill sets, balance, and traits easily...at least the foundations of them.
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    Watch the first minute of this quest from FFXIV 1.0. The admiral using her guns is nothing new.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT--6OOGLA4
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    Meh, I think if they "really" wanted musketeers in the game anytime soon then they would have put them in the game at 2.0 launch. They have had PLENTY of time to make it happen. It's not like they don't have or can't get the skill sets, balance, and traits easily...at least the foundations of them.
    This sadly hits a little too close to home, I think you are closer to the mark than most. SE has had plenty of time to add Musketeer but they simply don't consider it a priority anymore. It has been on the back-burners for years now.

    They have until the first expansion at the absolute latest for me before I pick up my ball (wallet) and go home (unsubscribe).
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    The bird of Hermes is my name eating my wings to make me tame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkiller View Post
    OK so based on one of the new images for the upcoming 2.2 Through the Maelstrom patch (see Gamer Escape news link below)... I think we might be finally getting Musketeer!

    http://gamerescape.com/2014/03/05/ne...the-maelstrom/

    If not, then this is just a huge tease that SE is pulling on all of us. Why else would this image of Merlwyb be featured?
    It's not, people see Musketeer in everything, they saw Musketeer when arcanist was being announced


    Though, this kind of idiocy is what got Scholar leaked/implemented, i guess its good for something
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    I keep seeing people in this thread going on about how musketeer/any new job for that matter won't be here "until the expansions probably", but Yoshi-P himself has stated that he will NOT be adding jobs through expansions, but that they will be added in PATCHES instead,

    He's stated in interviews that Classes/jobs will come in Patches, while new races will come in expansions~

    so it's possible that we'll see a new class/job in 2.2, i don't really think we will this soon, but there's always a possibility that they will be adding another job, and are just keeping it a secret up until right before the patch, just like they did with SCH/SMN
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    Meh, I think if they "really" wanted musketeers in the game anytime soon then they would have put them in the game at 2.0 launch. They have had PLENTY of time to make it happen. It's not like they don't have or can't get the skill sets, balance, and traits easily...at least the foundations of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bakiraka View Post
    This sadly hits a little too close to home, I think you are closer to the mark than most. SE has had plenty of time to add Musketeer but they simply don't consider it a priority anymore. It has been on the back-burners for years now.

    They have until the first expansion at the absolute latest for me before I pick up my ball (wallet) and go home (unsubscribe).
    A little maturity goes a long way, pouting because "I didn't get what I wanted right away!" is nonsensical.

    You'd easily think "Oh, it can't be that hard to just do it, surely they'd have it done by now" but consider the bigger picture.

    Arcanist {As well as SCH/SMN} were rather rushed.
    The development for ARR in general got a little heated and rushed at times too on release ontop of all the problems faced on launch pushing back content (2.1 was a catchup patch mostly).

    There simply wasn't any time to add in any other classes/job at the time.

    "But the patches in the original launch...?"

    From the get-go the game was destined to be a disaster and the team knew it after only a short period of time, as did the entire company. So when the new development team came in to try and fix the mess the last thing that was coming to mind was;
    "Hey guys, lets get started on Musketeer, we have no real game to work from here but MUSKETEER GUYS!"

    Even the original development team wanted; Fencer, Arcanist, Mystic, Musketeer, Shepard (etc) for the original launch, which (due to their strange and slow development cycle) never came to be as you already know.

    Remaking almost the entire game from the ground up in a period of two years. Everything took a considerable chunk of their time, thankfully they were able to take the time to cobble together (It sadly is very cobbled together) a new class and two new jobs for something to level for new/old players.

    Developing a new class/job can make or break a system, it takes a considerable amount of planning, adjusting and tweaking and not to even mention testing (which is assumable at the moment that no part(s) of the development team have the time to do so in time for 2.2)

    A short list of things to do for adding a new class (I've left tons out I'm sure);

    •2D/3D Models (Weapons, AF Gear, Relics, Class/Job Specific Weapons 1>50+),
    •Unique Roe/Norm/Lala Animations,
    •A metric ton of Sounds,
    •Statistic balancing,
    Class Role Type,
    •Overall Job Role
    •Overall Damage Output,
    •Overall Battle Dynamics,
    •Ability Planning/Prototyping/Adjusting/Implementation/Testing,
    •A lot of Class>Job Quests 1>50+, )
    •Lots of new Cut scenes and NPC(s to develop and write up dialogue for,
    •Loot Table adjustment across the entire field,
    •Battle Balancing (does the new job affect the tide of current battles?),
    •Q/A Testing,
    •Finalising Graphics/Animations/Sounds,
    •Bug-testing/squashing
    •Releasing so Bakiraka doesn't un-subscribe!

    And much much more all of which can take a really really really long time to produce.

    TL;DR - The development team simply didn't have time so far to make this class happen, there's been delays, content rush panics, deadlines, new game content and fixes left right and centre to worry about. Musketeer will come out just not yet. Bear in mind and remember that the game was behind schedule on launch and that'll have a knock back effect probably up to the first expansion before the rippled effects are recovered from.

    I could be wrong however and they'll suddenly reveal it on March 21st (I doubt it however)

    Quote Originally Posted by Heal View Post
    I keep seeing people in this thread going on about how musketeer/any new job for that matter won't be here "until the expansions probably", but Yoshi-P himself has stated that he will NOT be adding jobs through expansions, but that they will be added in PATCHES instead,

    He's stated in interviews that Classes/jobs will come in Patches, while new races will come in expansions~

    so it's possible that we'll see a new class/job in 2.2, i don't really think we will this soon, but there's always a possibility that they will be adding another job, and are just keeping it a secret up until right before the patch, just like they did with SCH/SMN
    Correct! (For 2.2 it would've been in the press media kit though to build hype).

    So I'd wager 2.3, seeing as 2.2 is a pretty hefty end-game content patch as well as developing the main story further.
    Hopefully Musketeer and (whatever else) in 2.3 is enough to tide us over till the expansion.
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    Last edited by Shioban; 03-07-2014 at 02:31 PM.

  10. #100
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    When SE adds a new job to this game I guarantee you it would be publicized and marketed.

    Why are you guys so sure that a major selling point would be kept underwraps to surprise a portion of the community.
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