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    Derry's Avatar
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    Derry Striker
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    Level both tank classes?

    Hi.
    I got my warrior to 50 recently and i've got it geared up with darklight and relic +1.
    I've seen people say paladins are easier/better for certain things and as main tanks, and easier to get the accuracy cap on with the relic weapons.
    Is there any point in leveling a paladin too or would it be stretching my tokens too thin trying to gear up 2 classes?
    Safe enough to stick with warrior?
    Finding it hard to figure out how to get it accuracy capped since CT gear seems to really lack it for some strange reason.
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    M60-Maniac's Avatar
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    Madara Uchiha'
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    Blacksmith Lv 62
    I have a pld, and I can say from leveling a mar up to 30 so far, I find it to be better, I'm leveling both but only so I have the ability to use either, if your competent in 1 though I wouldn't say it's needed
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    Bardo Phor
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    Well darklight is usable by either class, but it's going to take you a while to finish gearing your Warrior with mythology. So you wouldn't want to spread that around. If you had a lot of coil gear or were full i90 on your War, then I'd say it might be worth it to go ahead and level both just to be flexible. But you don't.

    You also have to think about the cross class abilities for PLD. It's not just a matter of leveling PLD to 50 and being done. To be effective as an endgame tank with PLD you would also want to level Conj all the way to 34 for Stoneskin.
    To be honest, the tanks are both in a pretty good place right now. There are VERY few encounters where one tank is noticably better than the other. So in my opinion, you're talking about a LOT lot of extra leveling/gearing for a very tiny increase in effectiveness as a tank.

    If I were you, I'd just go ahead and concentrate on your Warrior for now.
    Accuracy simply isn't a problem for any content before the Binding Coil.
    You only need something like 380 accuracy to cap for literally everything else in the game.
    You can solve most of your accuracy issues for Coil by getting the Dual Haken from the extreme primals (which you will want to do before Coil anyway).
    Now that Dual Haken is in the game, I don't think accuracy is much of an issue for War anymore.

    Of course if you actually like playing Pld more than War, then by all means level it up.
    But if you're enjoying your War, I just don't see that being worth the time/effort right now.
    Better to finish gearing your WAR and get into some endgame content and then spend the time to make your character more flexible going forward.
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    Last edited by Bardo; 03-05-2014 at 04:09 AM.

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    Soul Burn
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    Yes level both. Focus your warrior I guess. But I can not tell you how nice it is to have both fulled leveled. Fully cross classed and equally geared.
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    I'm glad I leveled both (though I really disliked it) just to have more flexibility in groups. Both are very well balanced in respect to one another, I personally have a little more fun on Warrior. You should be fine on tokens, just pick which one you want to gear as main. Both can use Darklight, CT, and Allagan gear, so it's really just the myth purchases that will warrant consideration (they do share myth accessories, as well).
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Now that Dual Haken is in the game, I don't think accuracy is much of an issue for War anymore.
    Accuracy isn't much of a problem at all really, it's just that you have to use DL accessories until you can replace with Allagan. With Dual Haken, though, you can equip pretty much whatever you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    You should be fine on tokens, just pick which one you want to gear as main. Both can use Darklight, CT, and Allagan gear, so it's really just the myth purchases that will warrant consideration (they do share myth accessories, as well).
    But here's the problem I see with that:
    If he chooses War as his main and starts to get several i90 pieces for it while being stuck with i70/80 on PLD, is there really any circumstance in which PLD would be "better" while having weaker gear?

    In my opinion, having both classes really doesn't add any flexibility unless they're similarly geared.
    And if he's in full Darklight and not running Coil, it's going to be a LONG while until he could have both classes in i90.
    By that time we might be talking about an expansion and new tank jobs.
    So I think in his circumstance it would be better to just concentrate on gearing his WAR.

    OF COURSE:
    If he's got a ton of free time after capping myth... then there's really no reason NOT to go ahead and level PLD.
    In which case I agree with you guys that it would be a good idea.
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    Last edited by Bardo; 03-05-2014 at 04:26 AM.

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    Elendil Voronda
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    You need to get your GLA, minimum to level 22 to get provoke, you wont get far in endgame without it.

    Now I recommend leveling both, I did and I don't regret it. Some fights are better suited for PLDs, others for WARs, but both are good tanks. I just focused my first myth buys on the accessories (there were no X Primals at the time) and the belt, all of them are wearable by any tank. And the rest I started as full Darklight Tin Can xD.

    By the time I had bought all accessories and belt I had the luck to have gotten Coils Body and Pant, both are wearable by both tanks. Also I bought the head piece for both PLD and WAR as this helmet drops from T5 and is a safe buy.

    For feet I went for the PvP Warwolf Soleret of Fending, even if they are meant for PvP, its the only Feet ilvl 70 that can be used with Allagan Pants, and they are better in every aspect than Hoplite/Lords as they have more Vit/Def/M.Def.

    So I managed to gear both my tanks pretty much at the same time and the only piece that was job dependant was the head piece. and the only level 70 pieces were feet and hands.

    This gear setup will give you an average iLvl of 86, which is more than enough for all content, even T5 if your not main tanking.

    Finally Last week I got lucky and both Allagan Feet and Hands droped on me, so I got both my tanks at 90 in a single shot!.

    Final Note, get Dual Haken for your War if you want to do coils with it, is more difficult to hit accuracy cap with WAR, and the Dual Haken fix all those problems.
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    Traek Darksoul
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    Level both, its worth it.

    Gives you some extra flavor, if nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    But here's the problem I see with that:
    If he chooses War as his main and starts to get several i90 pieces for it while being stuck with i70/80 on PLD, is there really any circumstance in which PLD would be "better" while having weaker gear?

    In my opinion, having both classes really doesn't add any flexibility unless they're similarly geared.
    And if he's in full Darklight and not running Coil, it's going to be a LONG while until he could have both classes in i90.
    By that time we might be talking about an expansion and new tank jobs.
    So I think in his circumstance it would be better to just concentrate on gearing his WAR.

    OF COURSE:
    If he's got a ton of free time after capping myth... then there's really no reason NOT to go ahead and level PLD.
    In which case I agree with you guys that it would be a good idea.
    Considering I beat T4 as MT PLD which is a little less geared than my War.. I don't think my War could take double dread lol

    Besides, aren't they removing myth cap next patch? (rumor I think)
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    Last edited by whiskeybravo; 03-05-2014 at 04:33 AM.

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