Level both tank classes?

[gtasthehunter]

I've heard it describe something like this PLD has easy mode and WAR has fun mode but i kind of liked them both also haven't used the tanks in a while!

I've both tanks but never used in Duty Finder for dungeons so not sure how good of a tank i would be.

And I've read that you really need 2 PLDs for Ifrit HM one that is just on stun duty.

[LukeyP666]

I levelled both so that I could be suited for any situation. I've mained Warrior since Beta and geared that out with Myth first, but as mentioned, Darklight can be worn by both, so my Paladin was quite a way's behind my Warrior for some time until I got lucky with a few Allagan drops for the left hand side. Once my Warrior had all the Myth Armour/Accessories I needed on it, I filled in the gaps on my Paladin (Coronet, Gloves) and eventually Zenith'd my Curtana and Holy Shield. I'm sitting with both at iLvl 88 now as I'm missing level 90 earrings.

It just gives you more utility for stuff, as PF Groups still won't take a Warrior to MT Garuda XM because of double WW's. I also do Coil Turns 2 and 5 as Paladin, for Spirits Within and Hallowed Ground respectively.

[Lemon8or]

as PF Groups still won't take a Warrior to MT Garuda XM because of double WW's.

Sounds like your server has serious hate with warrior MT. :/ Mine doesn't care since Warriors can handle double WW just fine.

I have 50 war already, now leveling PLD. I like pld more, but one thing make me mad, why paladin's Stun ability have GCD and warrior's not ? It's almost impossible to interrupt anything.

Because Paladin's Shield Bash has no cooldown and higher potency. That's the difference. War's stun: lower potency, off GCD, has 20s CD. Pld's stun: higher potency, on GCD, can chain stun.

[LukeyP666]

Sounds like your server has serious hate with warrior MT. :/ Mine doesn't care since Warriors can handle double WW just fine.

Think there's just a lot of bad Warriors out there who jumped on the bandwagon before 2.1 and levelled in FATEs, and then still don't know how to play their Job and use their cooldowns effectively.

[Feenux]

I have 50 war already, now leveling PLD. I like pld more, but one thing make me mad, why paladin's Stun ability have GCD and warrior's not ? It's almost impossible to interrupt anything.

[therpgfanatic]

I have 50 war already, now leveling PLD. I like pld more, but one thing make me mad, why paladin's Stun ability have GCD and warrior's not ? It's almost impossible to interrupt anything.

I agree 100%.

Other people claim Paladins can "chain stun" but we can't do it while tanking. At end game, in order to use Shield Bash before the enemy cast time finishes, we have to be auto-attacking; we cant be using any other abilities. Period. The GCD is longer than the cast bars, so if you used any ability right before the enemy starts casting you will never get the stun off in time.

And there is no way to tank using auto-attack; it's impossible to maintain threat if you're not using Flash or Halone combo.

This is a general problem with the encounter design. Paladin's offensive skills need to be rethought to have their effects trigger instantly. In Coil I have to use Spirits Within BEFORE the orbs start casting the spell I want to interrupt, or I can never interrupt because although Spirits Within is off the GCD the silence doesnt proc until the end of the animation -- which is longer than the cast time the orbs need to use their shock. The only way to time it correctly is to cast the interrupt before the enemy even starts casting.

The way the interrupts work currently, this is not something the average player is going to be able to do. Especially if they happen to lag a little.

[Lemon8or]

In Coil I have to use Spirits Within BEFORE the orbs start casting the spell I want to interrupt, or I can never interrupt because although Spirits Within is off the GCD the silence doesnt proc until the end of the animation

No you don't. I silence all High Voltage while tanking just fine without using it before the casting. You might want to check your Internet. And surely as the previous poster shows, you can chain stun while tanking because you should have an enormous lead in enmity thanks to the boost to tanking stances in 2.1. Sometimes on PLD, I just keep casting Stoneskin on myself or on WAR, I just keep alternating SE and SP instead of BB when I know I won't lose hate.

[Pooky_Pasha]

And there is no way to tank using auto-attack; it's impossible to maintain threat if you're not using Flash or Halone combo.

Sadly, fights in this game are so scripted you can easily time boss rotations to within a gcd. Once you know this, you can be ready to stun and still keep on tanking.

And at least you are finally admitting RoH combo is better enmity generation than RoH spamming. Baby step improvements.

[Remn]

w/ PLD you can chain stun stuff for 10 sec. then DR kick in. making it off GCD is a bit OP

[abzoluut]

Level both, it will make you a better tank. Not to mention the luxury of having both, picking one for a fight because you have to OT/MT and know what abilities are more appropriate for the encounter.

You don't need to have both, but it sure is nice.