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    Level both tank classes?

    Hi.
    I got my warrior to 50 recently and i've got it geared up with darklight and relic +1.
    I've seen people say paladins are easier/better for certain things and as main tanks, and easier to get the accuracy cap on with the relic weapons.
    Is there any point in leveling a paladin too or would it be stretching my tokens too thin trying to gear up 2 classes?
    Safe enough to stick with warrior?
    Finding it hard to figure out how to get it accuracy capped since CT gear seems to really lack it for some strange reason.
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    M60-Maniac's Avatar
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    Madara Uchiha'
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    I have a pld, and I can say from leveling a mar up to 30 so far, I find it to be better, I'm leveling both but only so I have the ability to use either, if your competent in 1 though I wouldn't say it's needed
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    Well darklight is usable by either class, but it's going to take you a while to finish gearing your Warrior with mythology. So you wouldn't want to spread that around. If you had a lot of coil gear or were full i90 on your War, then I'd say it might be worth it to go ahead and level both just to be flexible. But you don't.

    You also have to think about the cross class abilities for PLD. It's not just a matter of leveling PLD to 50 and being done. To be effective as an endgame tank with PLD you would also want to level Conj all the way to 34 for Stoneskin.
    To be honest, the tanks are both in a pretty good place right now. There are VERY few encounters where one tank is noticably better than the other. So in my opinion, you're talking about a LOT lot of extra leveling/gearing for a very tiny increase in effectiveness as a tank.

    If I were you, I'd just go ahead and concentrate on your Warrior for now.
    Accuracy simply isn't a problem for any content before the Binding Coil.
    You only need something like 380 accuracy to cap for literally everything else in the game.
    You can solve most of your accuracy issues for Coil by getting the Dual Haken from the extreme primals (which you will want to do before Coil anyway).
    Now that Dual Haken is in the game, I don't think accuracy is much of an issue for War anymore.

    Of course if you actually like playing Pld more than War, then by all means level it up.
    But if you're enjoying your War, I just don't see that being worth the time/effort right now.
    Better to finish gearing your WAR and get into some endgame content and then spend the time to make your character more flexible going forward.
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Now that Dual Haken is in the game, I don't think accuracy is much of an issue for War anymore.
    Accuracy isn't much of a problem at all really, it's just that you have to use DL accessories until you can replace with Allagan. With Dual Haken, though, you can equip pretty much whatever you want.
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    Yes level both. Focus your warrior I guess. But I can not tell you how nice it is to have both fulled leveled. Fully cross classed and equally geared.
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    I'm glad I leveled both (though I really disliked it) just to have more flexibility in groups. Both are very well balanced in respect to one another, I personally have a little more fun on Warrior. You should be fine on tokens, just pick which one you want to gear as main. Both can use Darklight, CT, and Allagan gear, so it's really just the myth purchases that will warrant consideration (they do share myth accessories, as well).
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    You should be fine on tokens, just pick which one you want to gear as main. Both can use Darklight, CT, and Allagan gear, so it's really just the myth purchases that will warrant consideration (they do share myth accessories, as well).
    But here's the problem I see with that:
    If he chooses War as his main and starts to get several i90 pieces for it while being stuck with i70/80 on PLD, is there really any circumstance in which PLD would be "better" while having weaker gear?

    In my opinion, having both classes really doesn't add any flexibility unless they're similarly geared.
    And if he's in full Darklight and not running Coil, it's going to be a LONG while until he could have both classes in i90.
    By that time we might be talking about an expansion and new tank jobs.
    So I think in his circumstance it would be better to just concentrate on gearing his WAR.

    OF COURSE:
    If he's got a ton of free time after capping myth... then there's really no reason NOT to go ahead and level PLD.
    In which case I agree with you guys that it would be a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    But here's the problem I see with that:
    If he chooses War as his main and starts to get several i90 pieces for it while being stuck with i70/80 on PLD, is there really any circumstance in which PLD would be "better" while having weaker gear?

    In my opinion, having both classes really doesn't add any flexibility unless they're similarly geared.
    And if he's in full Darklight and not running Coil, it's going to be a LONG while until he could have both classes in i90.
    By that time we might be talking about an expansion and new tank jobs.
    So I think in his circumstance it would be better to just concentrate on gearing his WAR.

    OF COURSE:
    If he's got a ton of free time after capping myth... then there's really no reason NOT to go ahead and level PLD.
    In which case I agree with you guys that it would be a good idea.
    Considering I beat T4 as MT PLD which is a little less geared than my War.. I don't think my War could take double dread lol

    Besides, aren't they removing myth cap next patch? (rumor I think)
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Besides, aren't they removing myth cap next patch? (rumor I think)
    I'm pretty sure that's been confirmed.
    However they're also adding better gear with a new tomestone type, so lifting the cap on Myth won't really change much unless the new gear works for both WAR/PLD.
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    Ghost Face
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    In general, you want to gear out your main before you level an alt. However, with the myth caps, coil lockouts, and 1 CT gear per week... there's really nothing else to do once you have all those done. So you might as well level a pld on the side. I have both a pld (i90) and war (i89) and there are advantages to both depending on content. 2 things that Plds have over War though - Hallowed Ground and a silence. For Turn 2 in coil, it's nice to have another silence for interrupts. And Hallowed Ground >>>> Holmgang
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