Hilarity

[Chrysania]

I've seen some MMO housing systems come and go in my time, but this...this one makes me giggle.

This is a joke, right? 'Cause I've seen real housing systems, from Ultima Online all the way to modern Rift with a big ol' City of Heroes in between, and this...

Ok, ok, ya got us Square Enix. Very funny.

Where's the real housing system?

You know, the one that isn't crippled in every possible way by every single design decision that existed to be made upon it?

[Sunah]

I agree the housing system is... lacking. I miss EQ2 housing so much. Was fun to mess around with and if your house was tall enough you could use carpets to make a 2nd floor haha. Paying rent was fun as well.

[Orophin]

Because I'm sure what we have now is the ultimate final form of it.

[Ed_N_Ants]

I hope we can buy and rent house... Maybe even destroy the furnishings when we get evicted for not paying... You know real life shit

[Ferth]

Because I'm sure what we have now is the ultimate final form of it.

This is a terrible attitude to have. "It's bad, but it might not be bad in the future, so it's ok!"

[Odd]

This is a terrible attitude to have. "It's bad, but it might not be bad in the future, so it's ok!"

Understanding sarcasm without hearing tone is an acquired skill. Get it ASAP!

[Chrysania]

Because I'm sure what we have now is the ultimate final form of it.

When MMO developers deploy a system with a set infrastructure, that's generally a reliable benchmark for what the infrastructure is going to be for a long while to come. Forever? Maybe not forever, but once the Titanic has set sail in a particular direction, it isn't going to turn on a moment's notice and go some other direction altogether by the next patch.

Ultimate final form of it? No, probably not.

The form of it we'll be stuck with for at least the year to come? Almost certainly.

And I have to ask...what the heck good is this even? This reminds me of nothing so much as LotrO's housing system, only its worse because nearly nobody can just jump in and play with it. This system is out of the reach of most.


Individual player housing? Prolly eventually sometime or another. When? Do we even have a Soon™ to comedically reference on that, and given the demonstration made with this, what shall we expect for individual housing when/if it materializes?

They really ought to have looked at housing systems that are and have been before.

If they did, even in the smallest of ways, they ignored everything to do with all of it.

The widespread appeal of player housing is not, and never was, making a months-long raid out of getting to so much as look at it in the first place. Its about being able to create something that is vis-à-vis 'yours' in an overall shared environment.

City of Heroes understood this. RIFT understands this in spades. Ultima Online understood this. LotrO didn't understand this, but made it very easy and cheap for Joe Player to use the system for everything it was worth.

Square Enix could've upped all of them. This could've been an amazing ingredient that invited vast majorities of players to invest themselves up to their gleaming eyeballs in making little places and spaces that were all their own.

This? This looks like Square Enix tried to reinvent a car and, for some reason, thought that it'd be the best thing ever to make you and umpteen of your neighbors get on for a longhaul bankroll project for the 'get out and push' model.

Your net reward? A house you can't even customize worth beans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcnpZYmNAuI

[Lucke]

stuff

Last I heard was personal housing is due at 2.3 (not 100%). Which is crap. It should have been out first. Call me an optimist, but maybe it'll get better with the gardens, chocobo ranch, and airship workshop. Watch, those features are only available for FC houses...

[Mcshiggs]

Because I'm sure what we have now is the ultimate final form of it.

This is why it is the way it is, people like you are ok with tossing this excuse around whenever they say one thing, realize they don't have the time/manpower/talent to implement it, so they toss a few things together half done, throw it out to us and expect us to cheer at the awesome job they did, because you know, it will get better in the future.

[WellFooled]

I'm rather fond of the housing system they've got going here

You said player housing is about creating something that is yours and I agree! I also think the housing system they've included absolutely does that. Its hardly perfect. I'd like to see the item limit raised for one, but the foundation they've laid is awesome and they're already adding to that foundation with new furnishings and features.

I can see many ways the system can be improved on, but I don't see many ways that it failed.