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    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    Bring back

    Tiamat,Fafnir,Nidhogg,Jorm,Vrtra

    AND THE BIGGEST REQUEST I HAVE BEEN HEARING AROUND TOWN !!
    Bring back content like Sky and or SEA to ARR the monsters dont have to drop gear they can drop crafting items .
    You do realize that those expansions happened over time and not until the game was out in the US for... how many years?... before they pieced it together to what it is now. Those places developed... over time... *oh no! he's trying to make sense!* Even when the expansions first released, those places didn't get fleshed out immediately.

    How long exactly has 2.0 been out now? Give the game 3-5 years... like with the content you are talking about... just like we had to wait in XI. There is no instant gratification as content actually takes time to develop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhas View Post
    You do realize that those expansions happened over time and not until the game was out in the US for... how many years?... before they pieced it together to what it is now. Those places developed... over time... *oh no! he's trying to make sense!* Even when the expansions first released, those places didn't get fleshed out immediately.

    How long exactly has 2.0 been out now? Give the game 3-5 years... like with the content you are talking about... just like we had to wait in XI. There is no instant gratification as content actually takes time to develop.
    I have been playing Since Release of this game Not ARR 1.0 matter a fact i been playing since beta I am not beating the door down nor demanding anything just stating that this game would be gone if this does not change
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    I have been playing Since Release of this game Not ARR 1.0 matter a fact i been playing since beta I am not beating the door down nor demanding anything just stating that this game would be gone if this does not change
    You're basing that the game will be gone if your problems aren't changed... off of what? Because a few of your FC members are leaving the game? I think you over value what effect a few people you know leaving the game will have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    You're basing that the game will be gone if your problems aren't changed... off of what? Because a few of your FC members are leaving the game? I think you over value what effect a few people you know leaving the game will have.
    i MEAN MANY FC'S well those who arent large like bg etc etc . People are tired of spamming the same content over and over and the new content is more of the same .

    Ask Yourself this if your Inn had a market board and you already have duty finder beside questing that you and your FC can do ?
    or If instant servers went down for a week could you keep this game online ?
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    If you want 11 play 11, this game is going to be a gear treadmill where your effort resets every 6 months instead of every expansion
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    Yup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhas View Post
    You do realize that those expansions happened over time and not until the game was out in the US for... how many years?... before they pieced it together to what it is now. Those places developed... over time... *oh no! he's trying to make sense!* Even when the expansions first released, those places didn't get fleshed out immediately.

    How long exactly has 2.0 been out now? Give the game 3-5 years... like with the content you are talking about... just like we had to wait in XI. There is no instant gratification ...

    <<<<as content actually takes time to develop.
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    What exactly has been happening since the first release of FFXIV? Did they do that release, identify the challenges needed/plan of attack to get going on and the.... STOP? Pretty sure the interim of time from then to now is...

    ...a couple of years. Yea.



    Quit asking for instant gratification ya bunch of wretches...give it about four more years and come back and check it out once you have children and wanna show the little ones a grand ole time. Be reasonable. Don't ask for everything to be done NOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autymnfyres View Post
    Pretty sure the interim of time from then to now is...

    ...a couple of years. Yea.
    If they kept the same game engine they could have had plenty more by now.

    But, they chose to pretty much start from scratch again meaning 2.0 is in a similar state as when 1.0 launched. They didn't even get all of the 1.0 converted into 2.0 as it was which is why it will take time as of 2.0 launch. Everything from 1.0 is gone, pretty much recreated from scratch. You can't even count the 1.0 time since its not the same game engine. 2.0, the basis for the current game start has been out for months. Not 2+ years.
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    WHEN did they 'throw' out the 1.0...and start on the 2.0? Did they occupy themselves with other parts of the business and just let 1.0 sit there for say, 18 months and then start on 2.0 like maybe three, four months ago?

    So unlikely.

    2.0/Its been 'in production' a good while, certainly long enough for them to decide to RELEASE IT. Comeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autymnfyres View Post
    WHEN did they 'throw' out the 1.0...and start on the 2.0? Did they occupy themselves with other parts of the business and just let 1.0 sit there for say, 18 months and then start on 2.0 like maybe three, four months ago?

    So unlikely.

    2.0/Its been 'in production' a good while, certainly long enough for them to decide to RELEASE IT. Comeon.
    It may be unlikely but its true. 2.0 only happened because of the the staff changes and Yoshi took over (after there last roadmap ended and they were free to do so), You may have not been there but as soon as yoshi was in place, he sent out that long survey on what to do with the game. Yoshi rebuilt the game from scratch due to the survey information at the time.

    2.0 production didn't even come into being until later than December after 1.0 was released.

    betas
    1.0 Game Release
    Game falls flat on its face
    Tanaka steps down
    Yoshi takes over
    game goes free until they "fix it"
    yoshi send out questionnaire trying to decide what to do with the game
    december/january hit and results are tallied
    2.0 decided and starts planning phase in side by side development of 1.0
    content that was already roadmapped from 1.0 (tanakas era and set in stone) starts taking shape
    quests implemented
    other stuff added
    end of the next year starts charging once again
    2.0 concept art starts showing up
    more things added/changed
    dalamud falling starts taking place setting up for 2.0
    end of the era
    game goes down
    2.0 starts being fully developed now that 1.0 content is no longer relevant
    time passes
    betas
    2.0 released.

    All in all they rebuilt the game in a couple short years and had nowhere the time invested as in the original 1.0. If you mean 2.0's development as about 2 or so years as a long while, then I can agree with you. But I don't personally consider about 2-3 years to reconvert a game into a new game engine a long time heheh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    We tend to over look what has been happening to the game I have played in 1.0 the first day of it coming out when tanaka I have seen alot of pro's and con's when tanaka was running things . I do not think he had the vision of having content completed primary in Instance. With Yoshida we have lost a lot in this game with tanaka we did have some sort open world content and yes you can say they came after yoshida took over but fact is yoshida in 1.0 was working off of tanaka game plan all he did was lessen the latency and add some decent content at the time but now all we do is instance everything now we can get to the meat of the topic
    Yoshi had nothing to do with 1.0-1.23b. He may have added some (extremely) minor content ideas, but the dev roadmap was already in place for that year. When the fiscal year resets, the devs have to submit their roadmap of what they want to do, when the wanna do it, when they think they will have it complete, and how much it costs. Once the roadmap is approved it's then locked into place for the year. From there, the devs then break their workload into quarters and order them on a scale. They then assign team members (they have the man hours already planned) to perform the functions (this is called the SPRINT cycle) with weekly check ins to ensure you are up to goal or ask for assistance if they are lagging behind. Yoshi joined in the middle of the roadmap. He had very little he could do/say to alter 1.0. Everything up to 1.23b was Tanaka's vision being implemented.

    Gotta give credit where credit is due.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amage View Post
    To devs

    HNMs dont have to be on insane timers

    Bring back

    Tiamat,Fafnir,Nidhogg,Jorm,Vrtra

    AND THE BIGGEST REQUEST I HAVE BEEN HEARING AROUND TOWN !!
    Bring back content like Sky and or SEA to ARR the monsters dont have to drop gear they can drop crafting items .
    I sincerely hope they listen, but I'm not banking on it.
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