Why not allow class changing during duty finder dungeons?

[Dels]

I understand why they don't want to let people change classes any time, but what if the party had to vote on it the same way they vote to abandon/kick?

When a tank or healer drops out, it would be very helpful if one of the party members were able to switch classes to replace that role, rather than have to hope someone queues for in-progress dungeons.

[Seraphe]

SE seems to always look at the downside. In this case

1. Vote function could be abused (until they patch in a fix)
2. People would get "forced" to play a class they don't even want to play
"You there, you have a lvl 50 PLD! Use it"

I'd also love to change the class in the dungeons though :/

[Skyl1n3]

+1 on this, it's annoying having to quit the instance, switch class then re-join the instance instead of just switching classes mid-instance.

[Shioban]

This originally worked with pre-made parties, but with the addition of the Duty Finder it's considerably more difficult to make sure its used correctly.

Sadly the cons out-weight the pros. (It'd be nice if it would let you swap when you enter as a pre-mad party.


One example would be;

- Enter Dungeon
- Tank Swaps to WHM
- You're now without a tank

The problems with people abusing it are the only concern ESPECIALLY with a loot system similar to what we have know;

-Finish Boss
-Tank swap to DPS
-Tank rolls on DPS item as they've swapped classes
-DPS miss out on the roll because the tank gets it.

[Taika]

I guess it's because it might lead to situations similar to 1.0 where groups changed to optimal setups for every boss inside one dungeon.

[Wilan]

I guess it's because it might lead to situations similar to 1.0 where groups changed to optimal setups for every boss inside one dungeon.

Yeah, and wouldn't accept you in their party if you didn't have all the required jobs exped and geared.
Words cannot express how glad I was that dungeon job switching was gone in 2.0, and I see no reason to make it come back.

[Skyl1n3]

The problems with people abusing it are the only concern ESPECIALLY with a loot system similar to what we have know;

-Finish Boss
-Tank swap to DPS
-Tank rolls on DPS item as they've swapped classes
-DPS miss out on the roll because the tank gets it.

I guess that could be a pain in the ass, perhaps they could lock loot rolls to the class they entered the dungeon with.

[Icarian]

I'm all for SE letting you change jobs if the party is not full (someone leaves/DCs or whatever), but letting you change it whenever you want to will lead exactly to what's below

I guess it's because it might lead to situations similar to 1.0 where groups changed to optimal setups for every boss inside one dungeon.

They would have to re-tune dungeons because of that, like Wilan says, that's exactly what happened in 1.0.

[Felis]

to stop class stacking.

as example 1.23 Aurun Vale
from entrace until endboss: 1 Tank, 1 WHM, 1 BRD , 5 BLM
at the endboss: 1 Tank, 1 WHM, 1 BRD, 1 BLM, 4 MNK
the other jobs? where not desired
You have a MNk but no BLM or a BLM but no MNK? No invite for you.

Who did dungeon runs during old XIV know why they removed class change in instances

[Aegis]

Actually I found switching jobs within dungeons fun. To an extent we can do it in turn 1 anyway, but it's so easy who'd bother?