Interesting FFXII-FFXIV similarities [Lore]

[Dante_Purgatory]

Just found this article on gamerescape.com and thought it would be pretty interesting for some of you guys. :

http://gamerescape.com/2013/09/24/lo...n-ascian-name/

We already know that xiv shares some similarities with XII (e.g. monsters), but this article goes a bit deeper into that matter and strengthens my, and probably a lot of peoples, theory of Eorzea being in the same universe as Ivalice if not on the same planet, just way in the past or just on the other side of the planet, since we don't know all of Hydaelyn.
There even seems to be a city called 'Dalmasca' (coincidence?).
Also, I could easily imagine 'The Floating City of Nym' becoming Bhujerba in the future, who knows.

This might be old news for some people, but still better than some QQ-thread.

/nerdmode off

[Phe]

Now we know how the Viera can come to Eorzea.

[Lyrinn]

Also,

Belias is an elder primal alongside Zodiark and is also summoned by Ascians.

Old news for sure but I'm sure we'll be seeing more of this story unfold soon, with the cliffhanger at the end of 2.1 and whatnot.

Random thought: Nethicite vs. Crystalized Aether, go.

[Taruranto]

It isn't also the first time we see Shantotto or FFXI mobs. Omg, does it mean it takes place in Vana'diel?

Wait a second... Shiva, Ifrit, Bahamut, the CT are also there... maybe it's actually FFIII world then?

Wait, did someone say Lighting? Then it must be FFXIII world, clearly.

[Dante_Purgatory]

It isn't also the first time we see Shantotto or FFXI mobs. Omg, does it mean it takes place in Vana'diel?

Wait a second... Shiva, Ifrit, Bahamut, the CT are also there... maybe it's actually FFIII world then?

Wait, did someone say Lighting? Then it must be FFXIII world, clearly.

I wasn't referring to reoccurring elements like mobs, summons, etc.
I was pointing out some lorewise similarities to XII, that are pretty convincing to a certain extend, since SE purposely connects XIV's with XII's mythology like Lahabrea being the light counterpart of Mateus for example.
They also share part of their glyphs.
I think it would be stupid of SE if they handeled this matter like reusing some trashmobs or names because they could've easily thought of something else if they didn't want to connect XII with XIV

[Taruranto]

I wasn't referring to reoccurring elements like mobs, summons, etc.
I was pointing out some lorewise similarities to XII, that are pretty convincing to a certain extend, since SE purposely connects XIV's with XII's mythology like Lahabrea being the light counterpart of Mateus for example.
They also share part of their glyphs.
I think it would be stupid of SE if they handeled this matter like reusing some trashmobs or names because they could've easily thought of something else if they didn't want to connect XII with XIV

There are lorewise similarities with 3 too. Actually, there are more similarities with III than XII.

Also there are lorewise similarities between FFIX and I too, VII and VI, VIII and IV, III and V.

It doesn't make them connected, it called "being part of the same-series that often re-uses a lot of elements". XIV is especially guilty of this, since it takes a bit of everything (Gunblade and Ultima Weapon design from VIII, Judges design from XII, Summon designs from XI, CT from III, Krile and Galuf from V)

[Timethiuas]

Don't forget Cid, Wedge and Biggs from almost every version.

[Dante_Purgatory]

There are lorewise similarities with 3 too. Actually, there are more similarities with III than XII.

Also there are lorewise similarities between FFIX and I too, VII and VI, VIII and IV, III and V.

It doesn't make them connected, it called "being part of the same-series that often re-uses a lot of elements". XIV is especially guilty of this, since it takes a bit of everything (Gunblade and Ultima Weapon design from VIII, Judges design from XII, Summon designs from XI, CT from III, Krile and Galuf from V)

The only similarity with 3 is CT and the 'Hero of Light'-gear, afaik. Maybe I missed something, but I see them more like nods to different FF's for fanservice's sake.
As for other FF installments, I haven't really seen that much similarities. But then again, I might have missed some things. Feel free to enlighten me
As far as I am concerned, I would be pretty disappointed if SE just re-used some parts of another FF's mythology for their 'main-story' just because they like re-using stuff...

[Tupsi]

The only similarity with 3 is CT and the 'Hero of Light'-gear, afaik. Maybe I missed something, but I see them more like nods to different FF's for fanservice's sake.
As for other FF installments, I haven't really seen that much similarities. But then again, I might have missed some things. Feel free to enlighten me
As far as I am concerned, I would be pretty disappointed if SE just re-used some parts of another FF's mythology for their 'main-story' just because they like re-using stuff...

While XIV screwed a lot of FF references for the sake of making this a standard MMORPG, they kept some:

FF3 - Crystal Tower/Labyrinth of the Ancients still remain as a portal to ancients, along with Land of Eureka coming. You can't get any more similar than direct import of concept.
FF6 - The current Magitek Reapers are used on the frontline assault more than the Vanguard (Version 1.x) and Juggernaut (1.x) - In FFVI, they too were the frontline Magitek unit (same design too.)
FF11 - Ignoring Shantotto, Titan is also a protector more so than just a god that wants to wreck things. Shiva is said to have her own kingdom in XIV, much like the Shiva in FFXI, also linked to the Gigas coincidentally.

There's more lore relations to many of the FFs than just XII, a lot of us joked that the world of Hydaleyn or w/e is Vana'diel in the future, which isn't too unplausible since Atomos in XI can devour realities and 'choose' which is the real reality, in XIV, he is also a temporal being.

[KyroeFelix]

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