[dev10??] Please allow Teleportation only at an Aetheryte

[Jobeto-Rin]

you can work for it all you want. i have ran from limsa to coerthas enough times i have see what is between them. i do not need to have to run through there every time i want to go there.

that's like some people love to drive a car on vacation to go cross country to see all the stuff on the trip. after a few drives to the same place you say ok i have seen it and next time i am just going to ride the plane.

Yes, but first you had to go to the airport.
Next, you were waiting (while maybe enjoying the view of your aerial trip if I might add?) during the flight.
Then you arrived in your destination, gathered your belongings and traveled to your hotel.
Once you arrived you rejoiced and were delighted about everything because of the new scenery and the work/wait it took to get there.

All I'm saying is when you create some sort of work ethic to accomplish a goal, the feeling is rewarding when you do it.

[Galoot]

To OP: This will never go into effect because SE wants it to be casual player friendly. If you restrict movement from place to place your adding more downtime between quests and sp. Making the casual players run around and using alot of time that they don't have to waste. Not the right idea if you ask me, maybe something like teleport spells that you would aquire through quests if you want teleportation to be a main focus. I certainly don't wanna waste time shouting for teleports and paying someone for pushing a button...RMT...Either way I don't know why someone would be looking forward to something that makes the game more time consuming.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

you can work for it all you want. i have ran from limsa to coerthas enough times i have see what is between them. i do not need to have to run through there every time i want to go there.

that's like some people love to drive a car on vacation to go cross country to see all the stuff on the trip. after a few drives to the same place you say ok i have seen it and next time i am just going to ride the plane.

Yes, which is why you cannot teleport to a camp unless you made the trip there yourself. Once you do that and you take in all of the copy pasta'ed terrain, you can enjoy the luxury of using this magical ability to teleport as it's a fantasy game.

(Not directed at you Darkstar) I don't know why there are so many real world examples being used to justify anything. Since we are, I'd suggest protesting the City-State's government to open the air ship docks and allow us to ride chocobos. As citizens of Eorzea, we pay enough taxes in the wards to open public transportation and fund them. Give me a break.

[Jobeto-Rin]

Yes, which is why you cannot teleport to a camp unless you made the trip there yourself. Once you do that and you take in all of the copy pasta'ed terrain, you can enjoy the luxury of using this magical ability to teleport as it's a fantasy game.

(Not directed at you Darkstar) I don't know why there are so many real world examples being used to justify anything. Since we are, I'd suggest protesting the City-State's government to open the air ship docks and allow us to ride chocobos. As citizens of Eorzea, we pay enough taxes in the wards to open public transportation and fund them. Give me a break.

lol, I'm using real world analogies because it's something everyone can relate with.

[Reika]

The OP never mentioned anything about REMOVING teleporting, but going to an Aethecyte to initiate a teleport instead of doing it from just anywhere. That would not take long to do at all. All it does is remove this mystical and unexplained power we have to travel to an aethecyte crystal from the middle of nowhere. I dont see where everyones getting the idea that he wants it completely removed.

[darkstarpoet1]

Yes, but first you had to go to the airport.
Next, you were waiting (while maybe enjoying the view of your aerial trip if I might add?) during the flight.
Then you arrived in your destination, gathered your belongings and traveled to your hotel.
Once you arrived you rejoiced and were delighted about everything because of the new scenery and the work/wait it took to get there.

All I'm saying is when you create some sort of work ethic to accomplish a goal, the feeling is rewarding when you do it.

which brings me back to my original point. once the other means of transportation are put in place there will be an argument for that, but not at this point.

you know things like the actual airport for the airship or stables for the chocobo. at this point you can walk if you wish to do so which is what i mostly do, but for those that are limited on time them being able to port where they need to go fast does nothing to hurt your game.

if you want to walk to the node to port so it feels right to you or you want to walk everywhere that is personal preference.

edit: your comparison also fails as to the point after you have been to the same place multiple times and been in the same airport multiple times it is no longer new or exciting. after a few times going somewhere it becomes a hassle not fun. if you have been on a plane much and in an airport you know people are not there for fun of the flight. they are there for the final destination.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

The OP never mentioned anything about REMOVING teleporting, but going to an Aethecyte to initiate a teleport instead of doing it from just anywhere. That would not take long to do at all. All it does is remove this mystical and unexplained power we have to travel to an aethecyte crystal from the middle of nowhere. I dont see where everyones getting the idea that he wants it completely removed.

Then why change it? If you have to step to a crystal to teleport, which are so abundant, then there really is no difference is there?

[Reika]

which brings me back to my original point. once the other means of transportation are put in place there will be an argument for that, but not at this point.

you know things like the actual airport for the airship or stables for the chocobo. at this point you can walk if you wish to do so which is what i mostly do, but for those that are limited on time them being able to port where they need to go fast does nothing to hurt your game.

if you want to walk to the node to port so it feels right to you or you want to walk everywhere that is personal preference.

Also, once alternate transportation modes are put into effect, maybe teleporting can be dummed down completely, as far as to only allow returns and not teleportation, or greatly increase the cost of teleportation.

Bad thing is, everyone is already far too spoiled by the teleportation system XIV has. If it were never like this in the first place, I am sure people would have adapted. We just have to be prepared to make the transition into a system that would have been a better and more MMOish start.

Then why change it? If you have to step to a crystal to teleport, which are so abundant, then there really is no difference is there?

Because it is bad that they did it like this in the first place. Who is really going to use chocobos and airships if teleporting doesn't change? you'd just be able to teleport from Ishagard to wherever there is a node, wherever to wherever there is a node. The new modes of transportation will hardly get used by anyone who doesn't do a lot of non-instant travel anyways.

[Jobeto-Rin]

Then why change it? If you have to step to a crystal to teleport, which are so abundant, then there really is no difference is there?

Changing it would give more glory to the area you are traveling too. It's a subtle change, ideal for creating more enjoyable places. It's hard to enjoy something you really don't have to work at all to get to.

When you first arrived in your cities, were they not amazing, even just a little bit? Why?
1. It was new to you, you were blind to it's beauty

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2. You had to work to get there.

Making it worthwhile. Since you get rid of the 1st reason, instant teleportation makes it not enjoyable anymore because you can experience it's beauty over and over, without any labor whatsoever.

Add just a little bit of chore and it won't deprive it of it's fascinating aura so quickly.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Also, once alternate transportation modes are put into effect, maybe teleporting can be dummed down completely, as far as to only allow returns and not teleportation, or greatly increase the cost of teleportation.

Bad thing is, everyone is already far too spoiled by the teleportation system XIV has. If it were never like this in the first place, I am sure people would have adapted. We just have to be prepared to make the transition into a system that would have been a better and more MMOish start.



Because it is bad that they did it like this in the first place. Who is really going to use chocobos and airships if teleporting doesn't change? you'd just be able to teleport from Ishagard to wherever there is a node, wherever to wherever there is a node. The new modes of transportation will hardly get used by anyone who doesn't do a lot of non-instant travel anyways.

So, you defend the OP's suggestion against players who are arguing that there should be no more restrictions and verbalizing their fears of time sinks and FURTHER restrictions only to ultimately suggest something you just defended wasn't being suggested. ORZ!