[dev10??] Please allow Teleportation only at an Aetheryte

[Reika]

which brings me back to my original point. once the other means of transportation are put in place there will be an argument for that, but not at this point.

you know things like the actual airport for the airship or stables for the chocobo. at this point you can walk if you wish to do so which is what i mostly do, but for those that are limited on time them being able to port where they need to go fast does nothing to hurt your game.

if you want to walk to the node to port so it feels right to you or you want to walk everywhere that is personal preference.

Also, once alternate transportation modes are put into effect, maybe teleporting can be dummed down completely, as far as to only allow returns and not teleportation, or greatly increase the cost of teleportation.

Bad thing is, everyone is already far too spoiled by the teleportation system XIV has. If it were never like this in the first place, I am sure people would have adapted. We just have to be prepared to make the transition into a system that would have been a better and more MMOish start.

Then why change it? If you have to step to a crystal to teleport, which are so abundant, then there really is no difference is there?

Because it is bad that they did it like this in the first place. Who is really going to use chocobos and airships if teleporting doesn't change? you'd just be able to teleport from Ishagard to wherever there is a node, wherever to wherever there is a node. The new modes of transportation will hardly get used by anyone who doesn't do a lot of non-instant travel anyways.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

you can work for it all you want. i have ran from limsa to coerthas enough times i have see what is between them. i do not need to have to run through there every time i want to go there.

that's like some people love to drive a car on vacation to go cross country to see all the stuff on the trip. after a few drives to the same place you say ok i have seen it and next time i am just going to ride the plane.

Yes, which is why you cannot teleport to a camp unless you made the trip there yourself. Once you do that and you take in all of the copy pasta'ed terrain, you can enjoy the luxury of using this magical ability to teleport as it's a fantasy game.

(Not directed at you Darkstar) I don't know why there are so many real world examples being used to justify anything. Since we are, I'd suggest protesting the City-State's government to open the air ship docks and allow us to ride chocobos. As citizens of Eorzea, we pay enough taxes in the wards to open public transportation and fund them. Give me a break.

[Jobeto-Rin]

Yes, which is why you cannot teleport to a camp unless you made the trip there yourself. Once you do that and you take in all of the copy pasta'ed terrain, you can enjoy the luxury of using this magical ability to teleport as it's a fantasy game.

(Not directed at you Darkstar) I don't know why there are so many real world examples being used to justify anything. Since we are, I'd suggest protesting the City-State's government to open the air ship docks and allow us to ride chocobos. As citizens of Eorzea, we pay enough taxes in the wards to open public transportation and fund them. Give me a break.

lol, I'm using real world analogies because it's something everyone can relate with.

[Shura]

I wouldn't mind being able to only teleport from Aetheryte to Aetheryte, would give it a .hack type feel, and we already have Aetherytes in cities too. But if they do this, they should add a function that allows you to set Home Point at any Aetheryte u want, and this wont change unless u choose to change it and not have it like it is now, which auto sets at a Aetheryte u touch or at a camp u do behest at. We should still be allowed to keep Return and of course this system should only go into affect AFTER mounts have been added; doing it now would only unnecessarily restrict movement further.

[_C-a-e-r-i-t-h_]

I am in favor of aetheryte-only teleporting if and only if other means of transportation are introduced first. Here's how it should be:

• Other means of transportation exist.
  • Airships provide city to city transportation.
  • Chocobos:
    • Extremely fast; optional: auto-pilot.
    • Rentals available at every city and aetheryte camp.
    • Optional: Players have the option of raising a chocobo to summon via chocobo whistle.
• Anima system changes:
  • Implement Aetheryte teleportation system: City <--> Camp <--> Gate, not Anywhere --> Any Camp
  • Teleport is now an Aetheryte option, not a menu option.
  • Return has 10-minute timer and lets player choose either their homepoint or the nearest Aetheryte they've been attuned to.
  • Anima removed.

Currently, there are two ways to play the game: either you have anima and stuff like airships and chocobos are useless, or you do not have anima and the game sucks so hard. That is too binary. Airships and chocobos are going to happen, so if we're going to have a teleport system at all it needs to be compatible with them and not suck.

[Gidonoidon_Sur]

I am in favor of aetheryte-only teleporting if and only if other means of transportation are introduced first. Here's how it should be:

• Other means of transportation exist.
  • Airships provide city to city transportation.
  • Chocobos:
    • Extremely fast; optional: auto-pilot.
    • Rentals available at every city and aetheryte camp.
    • Optional: Players have the option of raising a chocobo to summon via chocobo whistle.
• Anima system changes:
  • Implement Aetheryte teleportation system: City <--> Camp <--> Gate, not Anywhere --> Any Camp
  • Teleport is now an Aetheryte option, not a menu option.
  • Return has 10-minute timer and lets player choose either their homepoint or the nearest Aetheryte they've been attuned to.
  • Anima removed.

Currently, there are two ways to play the game: either you have anima and stuff like airships and chocobos are useless, or you do not have anima and the game sucks so hard. That is too binary. Airships and chocobos are going to happen, so if we're going to have a teleport system at all it needs to be compatible with them and not suck.

Pretty much my thoughts, more detailed and localized, exactly. SE, implement this!

[Davorok]

Quote from Yoshi from this thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post201619

アニマの問題についても、3国間飛空艇+マウントシステムとバランスを考えて調整が必要です。
今単純に緩和してしまうと、将来的な移動バランスを崩壊させかねないと思っています。
（単純緩和だと当たり前の移動手段が揃ったときに制限がかけにくくなります。
不便へと戻すパッチはMMOではご法度ですし）問題であるとは強く認識しています。
マウントの情報が出せるまでは、今しばらくかかりますが、もう少々お待ちください。
Regarding the anima issue, it will require adjustments to and balancing to the mount system and the 3 country air ships. (making quick changes will make it harder to add restrictions later time, not good thing to do in a MMO) I understand this is a big issue.
It will be some more time but please wait a bit more regarding mount information.

[Galoot]

To OP: This will never go into effect because SE wants it to be casual player friendly. If you restrict movement from place to place your adding more downtime between quests and sp. Making the casual players run around and using alot of time that they don't have to waste. Not the right idea if you ask me, maybe something like teleport spells that you would aquire through quests if you want teleportation to be a main focus. I certainly don't wanna waste time shouting for teleports and paying someone for pushing a button...RMT...Either way I don't know why someone would be looking forward to something that makes the game more time consuming.

[Reika]

The OP never mentioned anything about REMOVING teleporting, but going to an Aethecyte to initiate a teleport instead of doing it from just anywhere. That would not take long to do at all. All it does is remove this mystical and unexplained power we have to travel to an aethecyte crystal from the middle of nowhere. I dont see where everyones getting the idea that he wants it completely removed.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

The OP never mentioned anything about REMOVING teleporting, but going to an Aethecyte to initiate a teleport instead of doing it from just anywhere. That would not take long to do at all. All it does is remove this mystical and unexplained power we have to travel to an aethecyte crystal from the middle of nowhere. I dont see where everyones getting the idea that he wants it completely removed.

Then why change it? If you have to step to a crystal to teleport, which are so abundant, then there really is no difference is there?