I think there should be a server for just LEET's?( half joking)

[Lyrinn]

You just need to look at the party finder, to see how things are, one death kick parties can out number more casual parties up to 20 to one at times. I can see where elite players come from getting sick of people dying all the time. But sometimes the parties can be impossible to enter for new or more casual players. Casual =/= bad.

Nothing is stopping casual players from making their own parties. I made a learning group for Garuda EX because I couldn't find one for myself - and a whole two people joined after 1h. Do you know what that tells me? Most "casuals" are looking for carries, groups they think have a good chance at winning despite picking up an inexperienced player - and those groups happen to be the ones with the kick rules. No surprise that there would be whining over it.

[devilzpawn]

i think everybody here has valid points. it will probably never work then who knows. It could be a tier to test yourself. But that is the opinion of one person. I for one would love to play with bunch of losers than with one know it all kinda bullyish type player. Oh well, ty all for civilized responses or even jokingly responses. I enjoy these real responses and opinions and not the ur stupid gtfo I only matter responses. ( and to ninthfantasy, i have seen it before as well as it being in shouts, this has happened. Of all communities I would of assumed people who enjoy playing in a fantasy setting would be open to that kind of stuff).