Market Wards vs AH

[Silvyaniss]

#1 It's much easier to compare prices in an AH
#2 It's much easier to browse Items in an AH
#3 You can actually bid in an Auction House hence "AUCTION"
#4 The player can spend more time shopping instead of picking out his/her retainer in a flood of NPC characters
#5 The player can spend more time shoopping
#6 The player can spend more time SHOPPING and less time Haggling with controls trying to sell stuff then going to buy stuff right after....hence we need an auction house...

An Auction lets you sell and buy with the same window open where you can see all your wares...

SE seriously we need an auction house don't blame us for trying something new and then having it failed...
Just fire the person who came up with the stupid market ward system and hire someone to fix this monstrosity.

[Abriael]

#1 It's much easier to compare prices in an AH
#2 It's much easier to browse Items in an AH
#3 You can actually bid in an Auction House hence "AUCTION"
#4 The player can spend more time shopping instead of picking out his/her retainer in a flood of NPC characters
#5 The player can spend more time shoopping
#6 The player can spend more time SHOPPING and less time Haggling with controls trying to sell stuff then going to buy stuff right after....hence we need an auction house...

An Auction lets you sell and buy with the same window open where you can see all your wares...

SE seriously we need an auction house don't blame us for trying something new and then having it failed...
Just fire the person who came up with the stupid market ward system and hire someone to fix this monstrosity.

Most implementation of auction houses in most MMORPG don't involve any bidding. Search is no more or no less easy, and keyword search can be implemented in the market wards system easily. The Star on top of the character's head is the first thing that appears when entering a market ward, so there isn't any time wasted on "picking".

Again. Nothing that is part of an AH cannot be implemented in the MArket Wards system. On the other hand, several features in the market wards system cannot be replicated by an AH.

More options -> better.

[Warp]

Most implementation of auction houses in most MMORPG don't involve any bidding. Search is no more or no less easy, and keyword search can be implemented in the market wards system easily. The Star on top of the character's head is the first thing that appears when entering a market ward, so there isn't any time wasted on "picking".

Again. Nothing that is part of an AH cannot be implemented in the MArket Wards system. On the other hand, several features in the market wards system cannot be replicated by an AH.

More options -> better.

Why not just program something that can be done from a centralized UI element? Why waste my time with loading and walking to a person with a star over their head? I'd rather walk up to a counter, and look at a list... and make a purchase.

Would you like to know what part of an AH cannot be implemented in a Market Ward system?

Convenience.

[Abriael]

Why not just program something that can be done from a centralized UI element? Why waste my time with loading and walking to a person with a star over their head? I'd rather walk up to a counter, and look at a list... and make a purchase.

Would you like to know what part of an AH cannot be implemented in a Market Ward system?

Convenience.

You'd rather. I'd rather not, simply because I enjoy previewing the item I'm going to buy before actually paying. Also, as a seller, I'd rather have the possibility of getting people to buy something from my retainer just because they walked in front of her, saw something they liked, and bought it. It's called "impulse purchase", it's a very important part of any prosperous economy, and it's completely excluded in Auction Houses.

There's still some walking involved, also Auction houses normally involve scrolling between long lists of items which isn't less time consuming thanm "walking to someone with a star on his head".

Convenience is an absolute term. "I'd rather" is a completely different cup of tea.

[Warp]

You'd rather. I'd rather not, simply because I enjoy previewing the item I'm going to buy before actually paying. Also, as a seller, I'd rather have the possibility of getting people to buy something from my retainer just because they walked in front of her, saw something they liked, and bought it. It's called "impulse purchase", it's a very important part of any prosperous economy, and it's completely excluded in Auction Houses.

There's still some walking involved, also Auction houses normally involve scrolling between long lists of items which isn't less time consuming thanm "walking to someone with a star on his head".

Convenience is an absolute term. "I'd rather" is a completely different cup of tea.

You can't make an impulse purchase from a normal AH? You're also forgetting that 'long lists' of items can be sorted in a million different ways. You say it's not less time consuming, but you do know that there are a bunch of different wards, right? What happens when your item that you want is in a different ward?... you have to endure a load screen.

[JackDaniels]

You'd rather. I'd rather not, simply because I enjoy previewing the item I'm going to buy before actually paying. Also, as a seller, I'd rather have the possibility of getting people to buy something from my retainer just because they walked in front of her, saw something they liked, and bought it. It's called "impulse purchase", it's a very important part of any prosperous economy, and it's completely excluded in Auction Houses.

There's still some walking involved, also Auction houses normally involve scrolling between long lists of items which isn't less time consuming thanm "walking to someone with a star on his head".

Convenience is an absolute term. "I'd rather" is a completely different cup of tea.

Out of the hundreds of retainers I've purchased from. I've impulse shopped once and regretted it.

Well articualted points and I agree wholeheartedly.

Thanks

[Spellstar]

... It's called "impulse purchase", it's a very important part of any prosperous economy, and it's completely excluded in Auction Houses.

There's still some walking involved, also Auction houses normally involve scrolling between long lists of items which isn't less time consuming thanm "walking to someone with a star on his head".

Impulse purchases are not excluded from an AH they can be browsed just like a retainers little list can be browsed.

[Xfraze]

Why not just program something that can be done from a centralized UI element? Why waste my time with loading and walking to a person with a star over their head? I'd rather walk up to a counter, and look at a list... and make a purchase.

Would you like to know what part of an AH cannot be implemented in a Market Ward system?

Convenience.

I personally like the concept of the Market Ward, but believe it needs to be polished more. The thing I love about this game are the little things like needing to wander around and find your goods. It really gives you the feeling that you're the character (no, I don't RP). I think that was the intent of SE when they designed the system, and because of that, I think that having just a UI you browse through would ruin that. By the same token, I think some convenience should be implemented, particularly a search function when you're trying to find a particular item, and possible a new interface window you can bring up while in the Market Ward without having to talk to an NPC or wander to the exit.

So you bring up the interface, type in the name of the item you want directly (or browse as the current feature lets you), and then you get a list of people who are selling that item and what ward they are on. From there, you can wander over to them, browse their wares, buy the item, and rinse and repeat.

What's nice about this, as far I think at least, is that you get some of the convenience of an AH (particularly a more focused search feature) and for those selling items (and for those buying) you can still have little gems in your retainer's list of products to entice players to spend more (and buyers might find additional deals).

[Dingleberry]

Market wards keeps more competition between sellers going, it keeps the prices low and hurts the gil sellers.

[Vangelis]

I think the market wards are extremely tedious compared to standard AH in MMOs like WoW and LOTRO. You need to constantly run between your retainers and the item counter to check price and set prices in your bazaar. Checking prices is also a multi step process, you have to first locate what category it should be under, than scroll to find your item (no filter or search), and that's not even enough, you have to click to list the prices in another window.

I'd much rather have a centralized interface where I can click one of my items, list matching items already on sale and then set my price accordingly.

Browsing is a little confusing for beginners too. When all I care is upgrading gear for an ARC, it's not obvious where I should look. I'd rather just be able to look up items by their names, or stats or class.