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  1. #1
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    kenji815's Avatar
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    Lucky Cat
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    Aegis
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    Marauder Lv 50

    the need for 3rd tank class

    WIth current que time i think there is a need for 3rd tank class.
    there is a lack of tank. if you que with dps it easily take 40-70 min wait time which is stupid.
    i think they should add new class ninja as tank offering more variet
    offering special mount isn't going to entice people to stay with playing tank as their main class either.

    discuss!!
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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Not going to fix anything. People said a 2nd healer would fix issues but it certainly didn't. (Thaumaturge actually was a healer as well originally, along side nuker..think FFXI RDM/SCH.)

    If they add a 3rd tank it's just a new DoW that few will play - Let's face it, most people rather do damage than tank/heal, this is why pretty much every new MMO threw out the class system and gave characters with no defining skills.
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    ChaozK's Avatar
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Not going to fix anything. People said a 2nd healer would fix issues but it certainly didn't.
    You say it didnt help but there is a clear difference in heal que times between lvl 1-29 (where we have only 1 healer class with conjurer) and lvl 30-50 (where we have 2 healers with SCH and WHM).

    More tank classes certainly wouldnt make dps ques fast but it would help.
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    Naberrie's Avatar
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    Inari Silverfox
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Thaumaturge actually was a healer as well originally, along side nuker..think FFXI RDM/SCH.
    On a side note, I've had to heal on THM/BLM three different times when a healer either rage quit or DCd until we got a replacement. Once in Toto Rak, once in Brayflox, and once in Cutter. I actually found it quite doable in those dungeons. I took a certain degree of pride in being able to enfeeble, nuke and heal without anyone dying.
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    XanderOlivieri's Avatar
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    Xander Olivieri
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Naberrie View Post
    On a side note, I've had to heal on THM/BLM three different times when a healer either rage quit or DCd until we got a replacement. Once in Toto Rak, once in Brayflox, and once in Cutter. I actually found it quite doable in those dungeons. I took a certain degree of pride in being able to enfeeble, nuke and heal without anyone dying.
    Welcome to the everyday life of an Arcanist as we leveled up. A combo of Heal and DPS isn't impossible to do. Sometimes you have to prioritize one over the other.

    As for Tanks. I started leveling my Marauder. I will NOT be leveling him past level 15 since that's the general level to unlock other Jobs as a sub class requirement. I hate every moment I'm playing as the Marauder. I went in with a fairly open mind that it won't be that bad...I was horribly wrong. Class is so boring to play and level, I don't think it nor Gladiator will every get above 15 with me. If another Tank class is introduced with similar play style I very well may never play a Tank ever for group play. (No its not hard, just incredibly boring. I have 5 levels left and want to cry)
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    Naberrie's Avatar
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    Inari Silverfox
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri View Post
    Welcome to the everyday life of an Arcanist as we leveled up. A combo of Heal and DPS isn't impossible to do. Sometimes you have to prioritize one over the other.
    Well, at least ACN gets a native heal. I was ghettoing it. But yes, I've had to do that on ACN as well, when you suddenly find yourself without a healer and have to make do for a time. BLM was certainly harder to keep up with healing, though.
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    Gamemako's Avatar
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri View Post
    As for Tanks. I started leveling my Marauder. I will NOT be leveling him past level 15 since that's the general level to unlock other Jobs as a sub class requirement. I hate every moment I'm playing as the Marauder.
    The melee classes are nigh-indistinguishable from one another at low levels. If you hate it, that's fine, but every melee class is going to be the same slog for you. More than anything, I feel that it speaks to the need for a tank job which is not like the two present ones.
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    Daiza Auvec
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 80
    If they released a tank class that did damage like a DPS class, but you know, survived getting beat on, a lot more people would probably be tanking.

    Of course then comes the issue of responsibility and what not. But those are details I like to ignore.
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    Synthesis's Avatar
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    Green Green
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 20
    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    If they released a tank class that did damage like a DPS class
    Then the common party setup would be 2 healers and 6 tanks who do dps like all others dps classes. so lol.
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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Famfrit
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Synthesis View Post
    Then the common party setup would be 2 healers and 6 tanks who do dps like all others dps classes. so lol.
    an easy way to balance this is to make a class that actually has to stance dance to survive and do damage.

    Make it so that in one stance they take little and do next to little damage. in this stance, their enmity dwindles quickly. They switch to attack stance where they get hit hard, and hit really hard, while enmity ticks higher...
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