Guildleves Reform info up

[bahley]

Similarly, completing a regional levequest as any class other than those recommended will yield no skill points.

I'm not really liking this part. I'm trying to level mainly conjurer right now so if I get a leve with marks for a class I don't really care about, I still do it as a conjurer and just take 0 marks but still get all the SP. Basically with this new system I will be forced to either level the class I really don't want to, or skip that leve completely.

[Holy_Dragoon]

Quiestion: What are groups supposed to take place in on a semi-daily basis if not doing leves. Does this mean grinding is viable again? Assume you're not doing one of the two "dungeons."

[Rentahamster]

Quiestion: Does this mean grinding is viable again?

Hopefully.

Actually, grinding is viable now, in limited circumstances. It's just that leves are so overwhelmingly better for SP, that there really is no point to open world grinding anymore.

[Tezz_Xivectro]

I'm not really liking this part. I'm trying to level mainly conjurer right now so if I get a leve with marks for a class I don't really care about, I still do it as a conjurer and just take 0 marks but still get all the SP. Basically with this new system I will be forced to either level the class I really don't want to, or skip that leve completely.

100% agree. Here's to hoping this is somehow a mistranslation or something.

Edit: But bare in mind that there seems to be better/alternate ways for leveling on the horizon as well. This might not be too big of a deal. Unless you're a solo hippie.

[Corrderio]

I'm not really liking this part. I'm trying to level mainly conjurer right now so if I get a leve with marks for a class I don't really care about, I still do it as a conjurer and just take 0 marks but still get all the SP. Basically with this new system I will be forced to either level the class I really don't want to, or skip that leve completely.

What they mean is you can only get SP on a DoW/DoM, since those are the recommended classes for regionals. All regionals are recommended for a DoW/DoM.

If the system wasn't there I could just beat a regional on my PGL, switch to a DoH/DoL, then get the SP reward for finishing the leve on to whatever gathering/crafting class I swapped to.

[Delsus]

I'm not really liking this part. I'm trying to level mainly conjurer right now so if I get a leve with marks for a class I don't really care about, I still do it as a conjurer and just take 0 marks but still get all the SP. Basically with this new system I will be forced to either level the class I really don't want to, or skip that leve completely.

I would say that means where on the leve it says "Recommended class DoW/DoM" for battlecraft leves rather than the class you get marks for.

So if you are in a battlecraft leve on DoH/L you would get no SP, never seen that happen before so idk how it currently works, also if you are too high or low rank for the leve you would get gimp or no sp.

[Tezz_Xivectro]

What they mean is you can only get SP on a DoW/DoM, since those are the recommended classes for regionals. All regionals are recommended for a DoW/DoM.

If the system wasn't there I could just beat a regional on my PGL, switch to a DoH/DoL, then get the SP reward for finishing the leve on to whatever gathering/crafting class I swapped to.

I hope this is the case. I'm all for it.

[nRosenberg]

sounds great to me.. so in terms of progression changes in 1.18 we'll see:

1. Subquests with SP
2. Quest Hubs
3. Dungeons
4. Reformed Guildleve system

and probably:

1. Camp areas with respectable SP (likely if they're starting the Guildleve reform)
2. More NMs with cooler drops

Feeling optimistic!

[Corrderio]

So with them weakening the SP on levelinks I wonder what they'll do to help encourage PTing. It's not just the search system that's the issue, it's mobs being too far and spread out to be effective. Or have long repop times (Peiste in Coerthas for example).

The EXP curve is something I hope they'll take into consideration to. Here's a quick chart I made comparing XIVs curve to XIs:
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8...urvechart2.png

[Grundy]

I'm intrigued and happy that having 5 leves the same will not be a problem anymore, sure the link bonus is reduced but the amount of links allowed had increased, couple that with the revised SP bonus vs Leve it looks like after your group has finished their party/hub quest/other mechanic to get SP a nice little multi-link leve might just be the ticket for all those people who are near to rank (as is always the case in a party).

I think increasing GP per leve but tying them to the city guilds is a good idea too, but I guess this is the final death knell for The Shepherds Guild in Coerthas. All in the upcoming changes have a very positive dynamic, I hope the implementation is as satisfying as the description of the proposed changes to be made!