Guildleves Reform info up

[Teknoman]

Not sure I like the sound of that. So, if I do a 4-star Rank 20 regional leve as my 22 THM, but the "recommended" class was CON, I get jipped out of SP? I hope I'm reading that wrong.

Edit: Oh, they're probably talking about DoM/DoW recommendations. Nevermind.

You wont get taken either way, since the description will tell you whats recommended/works before you accept the leve.

I'd hope it would be the first week of July...well after the 4th.

[Reinheart]

Can't wait for 1.18 (and 1.19) One information a week for 1.18 right?... damn I wanted more info lol... what else SE hiding aside from all the stuff they already said...

I'm beting update 1.18 on Tuesday 7/12 - first day Rolling Stones had their first concert ever. But if earlier I'm happier

[viion]

This system seems to promote leve boosting from buddy keys. Unless you don't get the bonus SP if you dont have the leve, just helping out, which would the fk over the system for those who want to help? Why should I help if I in return get nothing.

[Physic]

This system seems to promote leve boosting from buddy keys. Unless you don't get the bonus SP if you dont have the leve, just helping out, which would the fk over the system for those who want to help? Why should I help if I in return get nothing.

you get SP from kills, but i do think just the psychology would make people not want to help unless they have the leve, but maybe thats for the best, people may actually use the party recruitment and search features they say they will add to link with people of similar levels with the same leves. maybe not eh well we ll see

[Davorok]

Regional Levequests

The skill point bonus will be abolished for battlecraft leves. The amount of skill points awarded for slaying individual enemies will be reduced, but this will be offset by the inclusion of skill points as a reward for leve completion. To accommodate this change, factors such as recommended/actual rank disparity, completion time, and partial participation will be made to influence the amount of points yielded. In addition, leve linking and sharing bonuses will be reduced, while the maximum number of linkable leves will be raised.

More LeveLinks = More SP Bonuses = More SP (possibly)

[viion]

More LeveLinks = More SP Bonuses = More SP (possibly)

No because they are reducing the amount you get from Killing the Mobs and the amount you get from leve link bonus.

Say you got 500 SP per mob, and the bonus was another 200 on top of that. You get 700 per kill. 10 kills got yourself 7k.

Now it will be like 350 per mob, the bonus will be less, say 100, then you complete and might get 250 (per mob) so you're back to 7k but you've had to get more links in order to get back to where you was.

We dont know how much we're going to get on the end, but right now if seems like the reductions you get from Sharing/Linking/Killing will just be rewarded as a Bonus at the end, so it will even out, but you're forced to link more to get back. Whatever SP you get with 4 links now, you'll need 7-8 links.

Not to mention since you cant really Fail now, they've ruined the only decent way to level, since grinding normally is no good. So way to go SE.

[Holland]

No because they are reducing the amount you get from Killing the Mobs and the amount you get from leve link bonus.

Say you got 500 SP per mob, and the bonus was another 200 on top of that. You get 700 per kill. 10 kills got yourself 7k.

Now it will be like 350 per mob, the bonus will be less, say 100, then you complete and might get 250 (per mob) so you're back to 7k but you've had to get more links in order to get back to where you was.

We dont know how much we're going to get on the end, but right now if seems like the reductions you get from Sharing/Linking/Killing will just be rewarded as a Bonus at the end, so it will even out, but you're forced to link more to get back. Whatever SP you get with 4 links now, you'll need 7-8 links.

Not to mention since you cant really Fail now, they've ruined the only decent way to level, since grinding normally is no good. So way to go SE.

You believe they have ruined the only decent way to level because you keep treating Guildleves as the main form for exp for groups, which, as you have said too, is now solo oriented.... Do we even have information on what will replace the guildleves? No. Do you think he (The producer.) would have missed this obvious issue?...

Grinding normally is no good. But who's to say this wont be changed?. We dont even know what will be introduced to replace the leves.

"But what will I do in the meantime to level up?"

Most of you already have a Rank 50 class. You will be either busy with dungeons or doing other stuff. Even though you are free to do as you please, it is my believe you guys keep trying to play a game, that unfortunately is not finished. Only to complain that the game is missing this, that, etc. (In other words, to complain that is unfinished.)

I thought it was the general consensus that leveling up using leves is boring and repetitive? Well. You are being given the chance to put it off for a few weeks. Take a break, until the main form of exp in groups is introduced (In case it is not so in 1.18)

[Holland]

This system seems to promote leve boosting from buddy keys. Unless you don't get the bonus SP if you dont have the leve, just helping out, which would the fk over the system for those who want to help? Why should I help if I in return get nothing.

Leves aiming now to solo content and content that only takes an hour at the most, when ever we dont have the time to during the week or weekend, there is no need for "help" anymore. For group stuff, you will be doing what ever they have planned. And if you still want to do leves with your friends from time to time, then you would still be rewarded, just not like before. Remember the SP bonus from linking is still there, it is just awarded now at the end of the leve as a reward for clearing it (Maybe not in the same quantities, but still Awarded).

[viion]

I dont get how this is revolved around "Soloing" now.

It states they are decreasing the bonus you get from leve linking, but increasing the maximum links you can have, atm its 4 until SP bonus stops, now you need more?!?

How does that promote solo? Or even make it solo like content, if you need more people than before to be able to get the good SP.

So backwards, unless im missing something here.

[Holland]

I dont get how this is revolved around "Soloing" now.

It states they are decreasing the bonus you get from leve linking, but increasing the maximum links you can have, atm its 4 until SP bonus stops, now you need more?!?

How does that promote solo? Or even make it solo like content, if you need more people than before to be able to get the good SP.

So backwards, unless im missing something here.

No where does it say either leves will be EXCLUSIVELY for solo players. So what is the problem with increasing the links?