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  1. #21
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    Ulric Delkin
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    Dont be mistaken while discussing my post. Im talking not about raid for many people, when the whole clan goes to raid. Im talking about const-party and high end content for const-party. 8 players- it is too much for regular const party
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    Karse Farrence
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    8 people is a full party - NOT a raid.

    Binding Coil of Bahamut, Praetorium, etc. - these are NOT raids.

    Crystal Tower is the only raid in the game atm.

    A "raid" being an event that requires more than one group or party.

    Most of the content in this game requires a half party.
    You are wrong. Check your party finder again. You will see Coil is under Raids. So an 8 men party can be a Raid.
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  3. #23
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Where they chose to put Coil does not matter. Raids, by definition, are more than one party or group.

    Even SE said (somewhere, think one of their letters) that Coil is not a raid.

    That they chose to put Coil there in the DF means nothing.

    Or are you going to say that Coil is a raid because it uses 8 people, that Praetorium and CM are both raids a well? Either all 3 are raids, or none of them are. (Hint - none of them are.)
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    Last edited by Roth_Trailfinder; 03-02-2014 at 05:06 AM.

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    Blake Ater
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    Your right, it needs hardcore 4-man content.
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  5. #25
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Wow it makes me wonder how Dynamis groups of 50+ people got organized; and then organized with other 50+ people groups doing Dynamis as well to coordinate entry.


    People are just pansies these days! :P
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  6. #26
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevalon View Post
    lol, this guy would have been REALLY lost in EQ with our 72 man raids...

    I know, shocking, 6-7 nights a week we were able to find not only 7 other people, but 71 other people and raid for 5-8 hours a night.

    I cannot even fathom how finding 7 other people is difficult...
    We raided 6 nights a week and always had people on standby lol... of course there were lots more raids, dkp.. and the raids were much longer....
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  7. #27
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    M'kael Jin
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    No, the problem is with the lockouts. People who complete Coil can't go and help other groups without leveling and gearing up an alt, which forces them to stick with the same 7 people and be done for the week.
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  8. #28
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    I kind of miss 64 person dynamis.
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  9. #29
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    Tymora Estrellauta
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    Quote Originally Posted by necrosis View Post
    I kind of miss 64 person dynamis.
    Oooooooooooooooooh the lag....
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    Secare Miura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronyx View Post
    You are wrong. Check your party finder again. You will see Coil is under Raids. So an 8 men party can be a Raid.
    Raid - A raid is a type of mission in a video game in which a very large number of people (larger than the normal team size set by the game) attempt to defeat a boss monster

    In the mmo world Coil is not a raid, FFXIV just calls it that for whatever reason but it's not a real raid. CT is a raid.
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