Quote Originally Posted by BlackPriest View Post
First off id like to say most of the people that throw stones at the "hardcore" people in my experience have been people in my LS's and my FC that wasnt at 50 when we started doing the hard content or just didnt have the time. But when they hit 50 get to primals they want us to clear the content for them. Which is ok i suppose. So we do that and they die a lot basically getting carried. So they get those cleared now they want to do extremes. So we try and take them and show them the ropes yet they continuously fail. Either they cant grasp the concept that every fight is scripted or they just cant dodge. So we disband. Then were labeled hardcore and selfish because they didnt get their win.

Next is coil. They want to do coil. Thats fine we can bring a new member in coil for turns 1-3 maybe 4 depending on their gear. We explain the fight to them tell them whats going to happen. Go over their rotations. And get started. Immediate deaths. No dodging. dps is horribad and we go ahead and kill it. We continue on with coil and attempt a turn 4. DPS is extremely lacking their gear isnt up to speed and they cant get on Teamspeak to listen to us tell them what to do and when. So we disband and tell them we will try again next week. Go ahead and get in some pugs or learning parties to get some exp.

But then people complain that we arent bringing them along and helping them and again we are selfish.

Now do this 40+ times. And you get to where im at. Im not helping anyone anymore. I want to get on clear content and get off. because ive already done it a thousand times. If you dont take the time to understand a fight, watch a video, get in a learning group(dont give me but i cant find any. make your own!) bash your head against it with a group till you get it down (like we did) then why should I care honestly? So technically the only difference I see between the "hardcore" and the "casual" crowd is the ability to put in time and learn the fights and play your job properly. Now the wait for the response "I dont have 80 hours a week to dedicate learning a fight..."
And here is our daily dose of cyanide. Delicious!