Thread: Patch 2.2 Not until after March 21st confirmed.

FFXIV 1.0 had a lot of "new" things to the MMO Genre.. let aside the flaws it had, it had some great innovations which people actually didnt like because it was "new" and some things were far away from being easy to understand. Battle-Regimens were a great combined with the Incap System ( 15 man parties were fun as hell with that ), but yeah.. people found it too complicated, same with the early Crafting System. Monster AI was also great, where monster reacted to you depending on what you did and mobs also fought each other on the field. DoH/DoL Content like Hamlet was also great, same with the actual Minigames.. the list goes on..

It comes down to that people dont like "new" things and always compare it to things they know and like. So MMO's today will just go with standards and add their own "feel" to it. There is nothing wrong with that, but people have to keep in mind that wanting new things have also a downside like XIV 1.0 showed. ( let the bugs and flaws here aside here )

I had a small hype for ESO since the last mmo I played was fps action combat ( tera ) but the graphics in eso just suck wayyyy too much. They said they sacrificed graphical quality to allow for large zerg gameplay.....???????? Who wants to play large zerg games? get carried along in an ocean of people....wow. Even ff 14 far surpasses eso in graphical quality, and ff14 is anything but polished, but at least it looks pretty. ESO is probably the ugliest mmo ever ( apart from wow )

Originally Posted by Sessurea

I had a small hype for ESO since the last mmo I played was fps action combat ( tera ) but the graphics in eso just suck wayyyy too much. They said they sacrificed graphical quality to allow for large zerg gameplay.....???????? Who wants to play large zerg games? get carried along in an ocean of people....wow. Even ff 14 far surpasses eso in graphical quality, and ff14 is anything but polished, but at least it looks pretty. ESO is probably the ugliest mmo ever ( apart from wow )

i thought the same thing theres something that doesn't sit right with the eso graphics on 1 hand it looks some what more realistic than ffxiv but also looks kinda off ..with thats said 10 years ago WOW graphics was the bomb they have really never bothered with updating them.. seriously i hate the eso pc/ mac controls seems better suited to a console controller than mouse and key board..

Originally Posted by Nysneirdre

I suspect 2.2 will drop around the release date for Elder Scrolls Online. They are going to have to put something out to try to retain the people who will be thinking about leaving for another MMO.

If people do leave for that, we don't need them here anyway. Holy crap TESO is terrible.

You can pretty much assume that anytime they give only the month as the release, it's gonna be in the last few days of the month. I've also yet to see SE ever bring servers up more than 5 minutes early from a scheduled maint.

Originally Posted by Doki

You can pretty much assume that anytime they give only the month as the release, it's gonna be in the last few days of the month. I've also yet to see SE ever bring servers up more than 5 minutes early from a scheduled maint.

You must have missed plenty then - They bring them up sometimes an hour before the scheduled end.

Originally Posted by Doki

You can pretty much assume that anytime they give only the month as the release, it's gonna be in the last few days of the month.

I've learned that too form playing many mmos xD seems like they all do it.


ESO will be horrible, I personally dont think FFXIV will lose a lot of subs to it. Wildstar on the other hand.... >_>

Originally Posted by Nero

FFXIV 1.0 had a lot of "new" things to the MMO Genre.. let aside the flaws it had, it had some great innovations which people actually didnt like because it was "new" and some things were far away from being easy to understand. Battle-Regimens were a great combined with the Incap System ( 15 man parties were fun as hell with that ), but yeah.. people found it too complicated, same with the early Crafting System.

I think the reason people didn't like the "innovations" was because they were implemented in a poor fashion and complicated as you mentioned, not because they were new.

Battle Regimens were cool in theory but their use was incredibly clunky. Readying a regimen left you standing there unable to do anything until everyone else was ready, not to mention for months after release the feature itself was bugged and would decide not to trigger and leave you standing there unable to do anything. There's also the issue that the regimen combos were a little poorly planned out, like you could trigger defense down with physical + magical or 2 physical, but magical defense down required physical + magical and not 2 magical. I was sad to see it go cause it had potential.

The orignal crafting system, well there's a lot to hate about that. 100% luck-based, abilities of which only 3-4 actually did what they said, crafting stats that had no explanation and no way to tell what the hell they did, and some baffling recipes that required materials you couldn't even make unless you were 20 levels higher in the same craft you were trying to make said item with. There were no blacksmith tools past the level 1 tool available for a very long time because of it.