Rank cap increase every 1-2 years discussion thread

[_C-a-e-r-i-t-h_]

No, but if you look deep in her eyes, she'll put you in trances.

And then what will she do?

No, I'm not. I'm saying there's more to do overall. I never played WOW so I can't really use that as a comparison, but if they made the level 50,60, and 70 raids obsolete with the level 80 raids, I'd prefer it to be a level 50, a new level 50, a new level 50 and a new level 50. That way even the first level 50 raid was still desirable to do, because there was still gear that you wanted from it, as opposed to making that first level 50 raid completely obsolete so no one ever did it. Having 4 options for endgame content is better then having 1.

QFT. A friend and I occasionally debate returning to FFXI, but it usually ends in "But what's the [redacted] point? All the old content is obsolete, so really you're just going to play Abyssea."

WoW has very little reusable content. Old dungeons are novelties no one cared for once they done it a few times unless it's endgame.

The only thing about wow, is that it was so often "rebalanced" that people made multiple toons to replace a bit of that old "non-endgame" content.

WoW is very broken in this way. Only the new shinny is ever appreciated.

Maybe if the old shinny was a crafting material for new shinny? Like how FFXI had the AF+1 thing going on with Limbus, so you can scale it right up.

But yeah, Asheron's Call did this before WoW did. If you ever wanted to get into AC, just get the core game and the most recent expansion, everything else is obsolete.

[Wolfie]

Psst, your image is broken. Might I suggest some Twilight Sparkle?

And then what will she do?

She'll mix up an evil brew.

[weeble]

how ever they deside to do this i'm almost 50 every class so they need to give us new classes or the first raise in cap soon or i'ma need to take a very extended break ...

i don't want to see content die though, i also don't want to see zones die out like bibiki bay or weapons in sky for exp grinds and the like, keep it all alive, if anything make it just as easy to get to those zones later or give them the same bonus.

[Punxsutawney]

They have to raise the cap every so often to keep the game from getting stale. It's why pretty much all modern day mmos do it. It gives people new abilities, new gear to get, new bosses/NMs to fight, and new goals to achieve.
You can beat around the bush all you want and claim that ff11 was so awesome because the cap stayed at 75 for so long, but really you are just lying to yourself. So basically all you did was Dynamis, Sky/Sea, Assault, campaign, or level other jobs to 75. Wowsers, that is great. After you spent 6 months in Dynamis and Sky and got your gear, you had nothing left to help your character development, unless you had the desire to get relic weapon, which took more gil than most could ever muster. They added bits and pieces more as the years went on (mini expansions, etc.), but realistically you continued to run dynamis and assualt for gear for other jobs. I loved FF11, I did, but I can honestly admit that at 75 I spent time doing the same handful of things, over and over and over, until I completely lost interest in the game. I think Yoshida realises that that is not a good system for a game to have, and wants to use these periodic rank increases to shake up that monotunous cycle people get into.

[TheVedis]

This is completely different! This is old school MLP! I'm not really much into the current Brony fad because it ruined my image of the original. Which I think Chezen's sig was hinting at too, the preference to the older style.

they are ALL evil as far as im concerned

[Wolfie]

they are ALL evil as far as im concerned

Looks like we've got a neighsayer in the audience.

[Shikaree]

Looks like we've got a neighsayer in the audience.

Shall old and new team up against a common threat!? And then who knows?

[Chezen]

Looks like we've got a neighsayer in the audience.

S-nicker. She needs a cutie mark.

[kukurumei]

They have to raise the cap every so often to keep the game from getting stale. It's why pretty much all modern day mmos do it. It gives people new abilities, new gear to get, new bosses/NMs to fight, and new goals to achieve. You can beat around the bush all you want and claim that ff11 was so awesome because the cap stayed at 75 for so long, but really you are just lying to yourself. So basically all you did was Dynamis, Sky/Sea, Assault, campaign, or level other jobs to 75. Wowsers, that is great. After you spent 6 months in Dynamis and Sky and got your gear, you had nothing left to help your character development, unless you had the desire to get relic weapon, which took more gil than most could ever muster. They added bits and pieces more as the years went on (mini expansions, etc.), but realistically you continued to run dynamis and assualt for gear for other jobs. I loved FF11, I did, but I can honestly admit that at 75 I spent time doing the same handful of things, over and over and over, until I completely lost interest in the game. I think Yoshida realises that that is not a good system for a game to have, and wants to use these periodic rank increases to shake up that monotunous cycle people get into.

Then why didn't you stop sooner? That's the gist of it, you don't want it to happen, but you were blisfully content to do it at the time...meaning it was worth it at the time.

That's call making good content. To string you up so long without you complaining.

Let's put this in an analogy. No matter what a baby's going to cry, whether he gets a shinny new toy or not. There is no good or bad about it, he's going to cry. The whole point is to keep your hassle to a minimum, and give him shinny toys that make him cry at longer intervals then shorter.

If developers had it your way...they would change from subscription model to DLC model. Pray your pocket books they don't.

Nothing is free, in the end your l33t character with his l33t equipment will turn to dust always!

[Wolfie]

S-nicker. She needs a cutie mark.

I have the perfect one for a pony hater.

http://24.192.254.74/images/gilda%20roar.gif