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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    The reason i brought this up is because its the best way for 2 groups of 4 people to level their chocobos "together"
    If you've never done it, that's alright, I'm sure a lot of people don't know of this method. Its for 8 people to work together.
    1 group of 4 claims, the other group finishes mob. Its actually the best way to level. I'm not saying to go fight mobs complete
    strangers have claimed. Its not unreliable at all, and a popular thing to do.
    Whilst i nor nobody i know of has heard of leveling a Chocobo in this method, I can certainly see it being a hit and miss affair.

    I wont deny your method if that is what you wish. However a group of 4 people with their Chocobo's out gathering up mobs to line of sight them and aoe'ing them all at once seems to be the best method to level all 4 Chocobo's at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Have you ever done it? It seems to me like you are simply guessing. No matter in which Fate i go, i just dps/aoe everything regardless of being tagged or not and the exp boosts up like there is no tomorrow. it is really hard to NOT get credit for a tagged mob, unless it has like ~10% health when you start attacking.

    Aggravate people in a different Group? How lol?.. You are helping them killing their mobs and since they had initial claim the get credit regardless of how much they've contributed. There is no disadvantage for the group, just for you because there is a really, really small risk you will not get 100% Credit for it and you will not get "items", which only applies to openfield mobs. Has nothing to do with being polite, since this is not XI were "stealing" actually would have an negative impact on the other group, in XIV it does not.

    If i claim a group of Mobs in a Fate and i see people start fighting it, then i will leave those mobs alone. Because i will get credit regardless, but i also give those people the chance to get credit as well. THAT is what i call polite, since i am helping those people. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and tbh i never heard/saw anyone complaining if you attack THEIR claims. There is simply no reason to.
    Yes as a matter of fact i have. Many times to great success in fact. I do it with my FC these days instead of just randoms.

    And as for generally pissing off others in a group, yes that happens a lot. Join a fate group that is not yet full and pull out your Chocobo. Without fail one or more will demand you remove your Chocobo. There is a reason why they demand this and this is no different to the stealing of kills for other groups you are not a part of. You are not ''helping them kill their mobs'', in fact you are stealing the very thing they are there to gain.
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    Last edited by mouseno4; 02-28-2014 at 08:01 AM.

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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseno4 View Post
    Whilst i nor nobody i know of has heard of leveling a Chocobo in this method, I can certainly see it being a hit and miss affair.

    I wont deny your method if that is what you wish. However a group of 4 people with their Chocobo's out gathering up mobs to line of sight them and aoe'ing them all at once seems to be the best method to level all 4 Chocobo's at once.
    What he's talking about is the same thing, except Group one gathers, getting claim in the process. And one the mobs are grouped and where you want them, the second group kills them. So instead of 4 people taking the whole spot, 8 people can level there.

    The only time it's "hit and miss" is if the first group isn't working with the second. ie the first is killing the mobs instead of letting the second do it.
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    Adell Raynes
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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseno4 View Post
    Whilst i nor nobody i know of has heard of leveling a Chocobo in this method, I can certainly see it being a hit and miss affair.

    I wont deny your method if that is what you wish. However a group of 4 people with their Chocobo's out gathering up mobs to line of sight them and aoe'ing them all at once seems to be the best method to level all 4 Chocobo's at once.
    lol you just keep denying stuff. This has been known since last year, and even has a youtube guide one it. Its constantly done on my server
    Herehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOmrikZHAXQ Like I said, its ok if you haven't heard of doing it with
    a second group, but please don't spread information you haven't tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    snip.
    I think he mean cross claim
    group A claim target A
    group B claim target B
    group A kill target B while group B kill target A
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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseno4 View Post
    Yes as a matter of fact i have. Many times to great success in fact. I do it with my FC these days instead of just randoms.

    And as for generally pissing off others in a group, yes that happens a lot. Join a fate group that is not yet full and pull out your Chocobo. Without fail one or more will demand you remove your Chocobo. There is a reason why they demand this and this is no different to the stealing of kills for other groups you are not a part of. You are not ''helping them kill their mobs'', in fact you are stealing the very thing they are there to gain.
    Wait.. what?.. Are you trolling?

    Seriously, i've NEVER seen someone telling someone else to get their Chocobo away. If i attack claimed mobs, the person/group who initially claimed it will get 100% credit, so what do i steal? Please enlighten me how i can steal something from an allready tagged target. Or are we playing a different Game?
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    Player Riv's Avatar
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    Whoever has claim gets credit regardless lol. There is no "stealing".
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    Tatalanu Bobolanu
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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseno4 View Post
    Chocobo's are granted 25% of the XP you would get yourself from a kill. So if you got 100 XP for your character, it would get 25 XP itself. Keep in mind that a Chocobo actually TAKES XP away from you, for itself. So for my example, 100 XP for you and 25 for the Chocobo, means if it was not summoned, you would have gotten 125 XP.

    The XP notation in the battle log appears somewhat odd to say the least.

    Your personal experience is as follows:
    "You gain <amount> (<percent>%) <class> experience points."

    Your Chocobo's experience gain is as follows:
    "You gain <amount> experience points."
    I'd just like to say that everything in this post is wrong. From the math all the way down to what is actually being said.

    First off, 25% of 125 is not 25. Its 31.25.
    Secondly, if that were true, you would be getting over 1200 exp per lvl 50 mob. Last I checked, you don't. What actually happens is that you and your chocobo both get 100% exp from the kill. The exp that goes to your character is then given whatever exp bonuses you have at the time(rested bonus, fc buff bonus, etc). The chocobo however, does benefit from the chain exp bonus.

    Just to repeat myself, the chocobo DOES NOT steal your exp.

    EDIT: Also just to add on to this, your chocobo will not get any experience if your level is too high. So if you wouldn't normally get exp from the mob, your chocobo won't get any. The only exception to this is when you're at 50 at which point only high level mobs will give your chocobo exp. I don't know the exact levels that you can get exp from but generally you want to kill 49/50 mobs.
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    Last edited by ReaperT; 02-28-2014 at 09:05 AM.
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    Ah this is the answer i was looking for,
    So i need to kill level 50 mons and do level 45+ fates to get exp?
    Cuz i was confused to how this would work if i was level 50 with a level 50 chocobo. I'll try that lol
    Also is it more effective to level up in parties or alone?
    I'm assuming party tho, also how long would it take to get from rank 1-5?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseno4 View Post
    Chocobo's are granted 25% of the XP you would get yourself from a kill. So if you got 100 XP for your character, it would get 25 XP itself. Keep in mind that a Chocobo actually TAKES XP away from you, for itself. So for my example, 100 XP for you and 25 for the Chocobo, means if it was not summoned, you would have gotten 125 XP.

    The XP notation in the battle log appears somewhat odd to say the least.

    Your personal experience is as follows:
    "You gain <amount> (<percent>%) <class> experience points."

    Your Chocobo's experience gain is as follows:
    "You gain <amount> experience points."
    I know you are trying to help, but your math is appalling.
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