Arrow Prices!

[KaedrianLiang]

The mats are not a common drop. And the mats generally come from a total of 6 sources. To fix this i strongly believe making it so that one synth will yield a full stack of 999 arrows, and/or get rid of glue from the synth.

Alchemy: Glue
Ahriman Wing for wing glue, typically you can go some 4+ fights without a single wing dropping. and the lowest level Ahrimans can be is like R36. Ahriman wings sell for 16k on Cornelia server, to make 96 wing glue you will need 8 wings totaling 128k. Then theres the other wings that need to be added, 4x puk wings or 3x imp wings.

Botany: Branches/moko grass/some feathers
Whether its arrowwood or cedar, someone needs to go out there and cut some trees. The yarn needs to come from somewhere right? Start cutting that grass.

Combat classes: Buzzard/cockatrice/vulture feathers.
Bringing the meat home for a plucking. The drop rate of feathers is not as high as it should be, considering that the whole bird is covered with feathers.

Fishing/Mining: Mats for your arrow heads.
From Copper/Tin for bronze, iron ore into iron nuggets. White/Blue/Red Coral, the two colored corals are not an easy catch only common in grade 3+ fishing areas.

Weaver: Feathers into Fletching and Hempen Yarn from moko grass
Fletching difficulty varies with the feather thats used but Vulture Fletching is an R40 synth. Hempen yarn is a low level synth with very limited use, you should be able to find this cheap, but how often do you see it being sold?

Goldsmithing/Blacksmithing: Arrowheads
Someone's gotta carve or hammer out those Arrowheads right?

Carpentry: Making the arrowshaft and the Final Product.
The last step. Having fletching training goes a long way.


The fact that all these parts come from different sources and are made by several different crafts, makes arrows expensive. The only time you will see these cheap if 1 player is doing the gathering and the synthing to all parts by themselves.

The dev's can ease the burden by making 1 synth yield a full stack of 999 arrows. Or get rid of some mats of the synth itself.

please check out my Archer video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BUeieGTXX4

[Lienn]

90k for a 1k arrows stack isn't expensive. It would mean around 9k for a 100 arrows stack, pretty similar to what we saw in FFXI for good ammo.

People still gets scarred about prices, but forgetting they have an extra "0" from what they were in FFXI. People may saw "but here you do 333 arrows in 1 synth" but here you also use a decent amount of materials, including some infamous glues that ckick the price up. I might be wrong since there's some time since i last bought them, but wing glue is supposed to be 5~10k a pop, which already put 15~30k at stack price since you need 3 per stack. Cockatice, swan and eagle fletchings are also kinda expensive (not as expensive as glue tho).

Anyway...IMO 90k a stack, depending of the arrow, is fair enough....and no, i'm not a carpenter that sells arrow =P

[Spider-Dan]

90k for a 1k arrows stack isn't expensive. It would mean around 9k for a 100 arrows stack, pretty similar to what we saw in FFXI for good ammo.

The difference is that in FFXI, in a normal exp/merit party, I'm using roughly 5 arrows per mob, give or take. In XIV, I use more than that in the first 10 seconds (3 from opening Multishot, 2-ish for TPing, then 4 for Barrage).

You can't compare ammo volume in XIV to XI. Every bow in XIV is significantly faster than the fastest ranged weapon in XI.

[Nexxus]

Only depend on your playtime, someone that play a lot will pay more for a day that someone that play 1~2h per day.

90k isn't expensive, it is when you have a lot of playtime as Archer.

[Peregrine]

In this game you're not so much paying for the price of arrows as you are justifying use of the salesfloor room by the stranger. I don't put anything up for sale that's not over 50k. That's just a half a r40 leve.

Your shell should be able to make all the arrow parts needed and put them together for basically nothing. Crafters just aren't usually interested in making the individual parts and right now good arrows dont matter.

[Warlyx]

so the question is...........

is worth to level carpentry for arrows?

[Peregrine]

Not yet. There's little to no benefit of using anything but warped arrows, depending on what you're fighting.
And they can't really tweak it unless they really nerf bow stats because warped arrows already destroy other jobs in dps.

[AdaraaKatsumi]

If you have a high enough crafters to make your arrows, the best is to farm mats and in turn you get your arrows. I have found to farm horns, feathers, and branches and give them to the craters and go from there. Farming mats is what has been my way to save money on paying for arrows.