Rant,Rambling and Drivel: Is it Fun Yet?!

[Tupsi]

(And I I completed my first relic yesterday, and I feel quite pleased with myself. Is that not a sense of accomplishment?)

Sure, I did a few relics back to back recently... when before Relics were an actual achievement and long time goal and were actually worth more than just being a higher stat weapon, which mind you, has artificial barriers to fully upgrade (myth cap) for now. You know what else sucked?

Having my Relic Weapon go from this:



to this:



Basically taking out the point of doing the relic in the first place. Now, if they weren't required to get into Coil (activate it in general) and SE actually allowed you to craft alternative weapons or boosted (and readded) the Skirmish Weapons alongside the Titan weapon, you really would have no reason to get it unless you got the +1(Zenith), and even more so you can completely by pass it with the Primal Ex weapons in concept.

[TheUltimate3]

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I...I'm not sure I'm following. I assume the first image was from 1.0 and the second is from 2.0? If so, while I'm sure your sense of accomplishment was diminished (as you said), I felt very proud of myself for getting my first. My goal when I started was to have the entire white mage set and as of yesterday, that goal was completed. And I am happy. I feel I accomplished something. Maybe you don't, and maybe my goals are low (which I'm sure you are thinking) but I felt like I accomplished something.

Sooo /shrug different people feel they accomplish different things?

[Tupsi]

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It actually strengthens the argument that this game basically hands things out to you, which is why anything can be an accomplishment by definition, but this game is just so...basic that it doesn't really feel like an MMORPG. Different strokes/folks and all that, but the first image is from 1.23, the version everyone thought they were getting with 2.0 only better but instead it everything was just..thrown out essentially.

I don't personally feel my accomplishment was cheapened, as it's just a video game - however it just feels odd that what used to actual goals are no more than a higher stat weapon when if you look at any other FF game (including XI), weren't ultimate and relic weapons usually obtained after a long series of (Usually) challenging quests or sometimes tough side bosses? In ARR the only difficult part of relic is the people you play with.

So when someone brings up the relics in this game or a counter to 'challenge' and whatnot, this version really did tone down almost everything to the point even the F2P MMOs from Korea sports more challenge and long term goals...and even better itemization.

[TeaTimeBear]

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Wow that attack power is nuts, song lasts longer, -enemity too? Uh.. Why change that..?

[Aethaeryn]

Wow that attack power is nuts, song lasts longer, -enemity too? Uh.. Why change that..?

It's easier to balance the way it is now. Not saying I agree with the decision, but that's pretty much what it boils down to in the long run. Hopefully they'll add some more flavor to equipment down the road. Some kind of talent tree would be nice too for character build variety (or at least the illusion of variety). If they're going to steal things from all the other big games out there, there's no reason to leave that out.