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  1. #2021
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    actually this is response to a post on gather getting left out of development, so hes starting off with getting left out of storyline, and eventually get to itemization, adventure, and mini game changes.

    or at least try to justify his stance
    Well said Physic.

    And I would agree with Yoshida-san's stance (about focusing FF XIV 2.0's story around Battle Classes).

    I personally love Botanist (and I leveled it as much as my Mage class (R50 Botanist now)), and I'd say it's one of my favorite classes to play, but even under Tanaka, I realized it was unrealistic to expect every single Story Mission to have a "Battle Class version" and a "Crafting version" and a "Gatherer version"...

    That's 3 times the amount of work, making sure each scenario can work under those different categories of classes (e.g., how would your R25 Goldsmith take on this Story Mission vs. your R45 Miner or Botanist vs. your R40 Conjurer or Archer).

    While I'm sure they could come up with creative ways to have someone, say, furiously chop some trees down for this Boss Battle, the amount of work and linking things up is a huge undertaking.

    I'd rather them focus on Combat at the core, and have some fun, interesting Gathering and Crafting Content (like the Ishgard Defense mentioned in the 2.0 PDF (where all 4 Categories of classes can join in).

    I empathize with Gatherers that wanted to play FF XIV exclusively as a Miner, Botanist or Fisher, forever (and never battle), but it looks like that's not the case with this post from Yoshida-san.

    And I think it's a change that allows a better focus to make each Story Scenario more challenging, balanced and interesting (now that they know they're balancing Story Battles only based on DoW / DoM).
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  2. #2022
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    It's justification. There's no real reason behind why Gatherer classes will get nothing more than sidequests (Sidequests don't get cutscenes and typically have gil rewards.)
    You do know they said for now this is the case and going to change, right? They're devoting too many resources to more important matters and even stated they'll be doing more cutscene/VA driven missions/quests down the line.
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  3. #2023
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    What Yoshida does not understand is the longer you have to wait for something the more likely it is to fall below expectations.

    Oh sure, if Gatherer's do get what some people on this forum has been suggesting (Special transport (such as boats for fishers), helper pets, Access to mines and other exclusive maps, endgame gear and maybe even, more than two leves per town) That would be awesome.

    From what I can see from this letter, nothing so fun is in the works. I'll feel lucky if Gatherer's go back to getting guildquests with cutscenes.
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  4. #2024
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    What Yoshida does not understand is the longer you have to wait for something the more likely it is to fall below expectations.

    Oh sure, if Gatherer's do get what some people on this forum has been suggesting (Special transport (such as boats for fishers), helper pets, Access to mines and other exclusive maps, endgame gear and maybe even, more than two leves per town) That would be awesome.

    From what I can see from this letter, nothing so fun is in the works. I'll feel lucky if Gatherer's go back to getting guildquests with cutscenes.
    People like you whom taint these forums
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  5. #2025
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    interesting, he plans to add exp chains to gatherer and crafter, and as far as gatherer, it seems there will be rare mats, that they will essentially have to hunt down, implies it moves. It will be interesting to see how that will be implemented, Its also one of the things they have in the long term 2.0 plans.
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  6. #2026
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    maybe i missed it, but is this entire post about DOL/DOH?
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

  7. #2027
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    People like you whom taint these forums

    Your face. I'm still watching the translations. I could get excited any time. I'm still waiting, Yoshi
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  8. #2028
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    So what I'm getting out if it do far is that it'll be easier and more entertaining to level both DoL and DoH in 2.0. But the game still is totally ready for subs...
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  9. #2029
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    I'm getting tired of this "In 2.0...."
    I'd like to know what he's planning for this year, some relevant info and when the update is. Was hoping for that in the letter but that dint happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    I'm getting tired of this "In 2.0...."
    I'd like to know what he's planning for this year, some relevant info and when the update is. Was hoping for that in the letter but that dint happen...... again
    fixed your post >.<

    there isnt much left to translate so this post is quite disappointing if your (like me) looking for FFXIV entertainment this year.

    compared to 2.0 there isnt much of any info at all for whats happening in the near feature as well as the rest of 2012
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    Last edited by Dreadnought; 11-10-2011 at 07:21 AM.
    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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