Translations (JP to English)

[Rentahamster]

Well, I really am sorry you had to waste your time translating that Rein. What a ridiculous waste of everyone's time. He literally just spewed the same runaround that he has been giving DoL since the day he announced he was going to ignore them. Honestly, how hard is it to answer one simple question.

"How do you think you can make DoL better?"

"Add more items" is not the answer. People want more to do than just Grind on gathering points.

We'll add housing customization for DoL.. by adding more items they can gather.. Yea, thats going to be new and exciting.

Seriously, he can just say one or two things he's considering adding for CONTENT and saying but it might not work so we'll look into it..

I an curious to see if this somehow actually satisfied the JP players.

Eh? There's a lot in there about how he's going to improve the system so that the three disciplines can exist more harmoniously and that each discipline has content that is specific for that discipline so you don't end up with what we have now of non-battle classes trying to complete battle-oriented content by throwing rocks at scary monsters while an NPC kills it for you.

It was a pretty good post outlining the overall direction of gathering in future updates, in my opinion.

[Cichy]

I Feel bad for Yoshi-P that they are bashing him over the old teams promises, when he clearly stated several times that DOL/DOH will be taking a back seat, and it is no longer this dev teams promise to make them able to do everything DOW/DOM can do.

I dont think anyone is expecting them to do as much but they dont want to be left completely behind.
ArchAge which is an upcoming MMO is doing a thing where players will have labor power that will be used to build player housing. SE could add something like that for DOLs where they would be the ones we gotta rely on to build/upgrade our residence. Botanist job could maybe become furniture maker or something. They dont have to be included into everything but people want more than just hitting a spot for hours.

[Reinheart]

I Feel bad for Yoshi-P that they are bashing him over the old teams promises, when he clearly stated several times that DOL/DOH will be taking a back seat, and it is no longer this dev teams promise to make them able to do everything DOW/DOM can do.

Reading the posts after YoshiP's post and there are some still giving hard time to YoshiP it's kind of ridiculous if you ask me... one is saying that it says on the package that you can play as only Gatherer or Crafter and now you can't which is false advertisement and can be reported... it's like.... wow really!? you bought a game just to play gatherer/crafter for years and years in a MMORPG!?

[Dhalmel]

Reading the posts after YoshiP's post and there are some still giving hard time to YoshiP it's kind of ridiculous if you ask me... one is saying that it says on the package that you can play as only Gatherer or Crafter and now you can't which is false advertisement and can be reported... it's like.... wow really!? you bought a game just to play gatherer/crafter for years and years in a MMORPG!?

JP trolls, oh man I wish I could understand those guys just for the laughs

[Airget]

Ya, I don't think they understood Yoshida's message, what he said did make sense, if they try and split the story content into land/hand/fight it would take a lot of resources so it would be really hard to pull off and keep consistent. If you keep it as it is now story will be nothing more then a progression line for completing whatever the objective was which is boring and very unappealing for those that would like challenges in the story.

I don't think they consider how much work it actually takes to basically rebuild an mmo from scratch and for what they've had to work with they are doing a good job. While one can hope that they may add some concepts for land/hand next VU if I read what they said correctly it seems as if Yoshida wants to push out housing asap so that land/hand have a big amount of content to play with before the release of 2.0 though I could be wrong.

Honestly they should appreciate all the potential the future has for land/hand while yes it may come down to. Basically what it seems to come down to is when sub fees come up the ones who mainly wanna focus on land/hand don't want to play so they won't pay for the game and the economy may be hit a bit but it will rebuild itself as the months pass and more content is added that they want lol.

[Estellios]

I dont think anyone is expecting them to do as much but they dont want to be left completely behind.
ArchAge which is an upcoming MMO is doing a thing where players will have labor power that will be used to build player housing. SE could add something like that for DOLs where they would be the ones we gotta rely on to build/upgrade our residence. Botanist job could maybe become furniture maker or something. They dont have to be included into everything but people want more than just hitting a spot for hours.

They said crafters would be involved in residence stuff so that would indirectly involve gatherers too. It really doesn't make sense for botanist to be making furniture when we have a carpenter already. The gardening stuff would be interesting for DoL to do. Botany would obviously get plants, Fisher could have their own fish to raise, dunno what Miner could have.

@ Airget: It's really a small minority of people that refuse to play battle classes so economies shouldn't be hit THAT much since the game has been around this long there's more than enough high level crafters and gatherers.

[Fieros]

Thanks for the translation work Reinheart. Its like the English forum shoutbox up in here.

[Jinko]

I doubt the economy will hurt that bad if those gatherers don't pay, the majority of people I know in game have multiple disciplines leveled so it will just go on as before.

dunno what Miner could have.

They could raise little coblyns of course :P

[Fayette]

Reading the posts after YoshiP's post and there are some still giving hard time to YoshiP it's kind of ridiculous if you ask me... one is saying that it says on the package that you can play as only Gatherer or Crafter and now you can't which is false advertisement and can be reported... it's like.... wow really!? you bought a game just to play gatherer/crafter for years and years in a MMORPG!?

I am primarily a crafter/gatherer but I also level up battle jobs (not at first though since battle was hard on a crappy pc and now I have an awesome pc) but even I know that the game I bought in 2010 and what the plans for it were are no longer in play and the game in 2011 is vastly different. I seem to remember that DoL and DoH were supposed to be able to level in battle with DoW/M classes and have their own abilities for it but even that went byebye before release.

The game has changed a lot since original purchase and if people on the JP side cannot understand that then I don't know what to say. It is a new producer and team and they are doing a new story. I am sad that crafter and gatherer will be no longer main class but secondary to DoW/M but nothing we can do about that unless Tanaka takes back control and brings back his original plans for the game and I just don't see that happening. lol

YoshiP must though design content for us crafters/gatherers (more choices in gear as well) because the grind is tedious. Gatherers definitely need more to do and take away the grind. How about some GC crafting and gathering leves with boosted exp? That would give DoL's more leve's to choose from to help level up. I do enjoy doing the supply runs for GC but I won't be doing those until I can turn in the amount I want and not have to constantly go through the menu to turn in my 3 stacks of branches at 3 branches at a time.

They said crafters would be involved in residence stuff so that would indirectly involve gatherers too. It really doesn't make sense for botanist to be making furniture when we have a carpenter already. The gardening stuff would be interesting for DoL to do. Botany would obviously get plants, Fisher could have their own fish to raise, dunno what Miner could have.

As all three gathering classes I can build myself a pretty little flower/vegetable/fruit garden with a big pond full of all kinds of fish with a rock garden off to the side? xD

[Jinko]

To be honest I would be pretty happy if they just gave us 8 leves for each DoL/DoH at each level range in each city.

Thats enough content for me for the time being.