Translations (JP to English)

[Reinheart]

why not just wait for the release before starting all this... lol
YoshiP didn't say there is a backup plan for people without raise, their still may be possibility there is some type of instance temporary home point if you die you start from there where it's safe for recovery. The eye mob throughout the dungeon could be non targetable mob but just a npc flying around. Look at the video again carefully (look at the map and the eye and icon color indicating the eye) If you do it right you can get to the end where you might be able to weaken the eye to kill it without getting the 8k damage. It's all about the route you take and strategy you put into it.

[Chardrizard]

Or maybe avoid it.. You know? If dungeons is all about plummeting everything inside, guess who is gonna whine again? Lol.. Also, where did you get info that wipe means game over? We could restart at starting point or check point for all we know, but no i dont know and neither is you. Also, stop derailing one of the few good threads.

Again, thanks for your effort Reinhart, much appreciated.

[viion]

Its not really strategy and tactics when you've learnt the pattern, its just routine. Like Dynamis became, and then it becomes just a mundane feature that has zero challenge or purpose.

And it's not even about zerging, those guys didnt zerg, and almost had 10 mins left by that orge lol cutting it close.

Guess I'll just wait and see it but I still find it very retarded. But hey thats my opinion.

[Chardrizard]

Everything becomes routine when you have already figure the strategy out lol, nothing in FFXI was challenging after people has done it a few times, although Salvage is one of the best one around becuase it has so many path and objectives which keeps people busy trying to discover the secret for months, which hopefully is what they are tying to achieve.

[Gidonoidon_Sur]

Maybe the eye doesn't take the same path every time? Let us wait and see before slinging poop at it.

[Reinheart]

All the talks about the instance raid should go here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n-the-Darkhold

OK to talk little about what I translated but don't start full on discussion in here please; create a new post for it or post in existing thread about it. Some people might come in here to check for translation every time they see new post been posted in here :P

[Ferth]

Its not really strategy and tactics when you've learnt the pattern.

No offense... But every fight, ever, in the history of video games has been learning the patterns.

[BloodLotus]

I think you mis-understood me, the routine and the mundane is the same thing. It having a set path is what is boring, so it becomes a routine and becomes boring. Much like Dynamis became.

If it was random everytime and did not 1shot but did cause a threat it would be much better imo. I never once mentioned anything about it "flying around randomly"

My opinion is clear.
"I don't like that it just instant kills you and that challenge is only there during your first time (learning curve) then its gone as it becomes routine."

I also don't like that just because someone dies that classifies them as shit at the game.

There may be ways to avoid it, or prevent it, such as Odin in XI, which I'll accept, but right now, from that video, and what its perceiving is that it comes along and 1shots you, end of story. I am disliking something that is being clearly shown right in-front of us.

Maybe I have way to high expectations for SE to do something new where it just seems like they are falling back onto basic stuff and things they know, which is all welcomed but I was hoping for something new, not the same experience I can get in any other game.

I'm going to enjoy the dungeon anyway.

[Chinook]

Thx Reinheart.

I'm curious about the skills/spells rank/class adjustments (and how many adjustments will we see in 1.18).

This is kinda linked to the Job system, as they might switch some spells/skills around to make some jobs make more sense with the class that unlocks them (like BLM and WHM).

[TirionCrey]

I just deleted all my posts regarding the dungeon discussion that has nothing to do with Reinhearts translations. So I'd ask anyone else to delete theirs as well to keep this translation topic as clean as possible. Thank you.