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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ava View Post
    I think you're confused. What you explained would not be a public test server, that kind of stuff is tested internally, for the exact reasons you stated. Public test servers are so the community can test the finished ideas/products as soon as they are functional. Instead of pushing enmity changes into a live environment, a test server would ensure that it is tested, feedback is collected, then fine tune adjustments can be made before it goes live for the world to see. As it stands right now, they push it live for the world to see, then admit their mistake when people don't like it, and backpedal. This is why people are so frustrated with this game right now.
    Wrong. They push it out as soon as it is functional because the game is better off that way. Not everyone is going to like the changes, and testing won't change that fact.

    There's a reason why beta testing starts so late in a game development's lifespan (read: when the features are functional).

    There needs to be a test environment. Dungeons should not go live before community testing, game changing mechanics should not go live before community testing. They are leaving us in the dark and we have no way of giving Square any kind of constructive feedback until the walls are already painted.
    You just said they are implemented when deemed functional. There is absolutely no point in testing them before that, aside from bugs. You are contradicting yourself.

    They release them as soon as they can be tested. The walls are not painted.

    It's like if you're making a dinner for a group of people but you're inexperienced (I think SE has oddly proved their lack of experience, especially with Yoshi-P) with cooking, you put something together and taste it. But unless you have a proven good taste (Square doesn't), you'll probably want a second outside opinion before sending your dinner out to a bunch of people. It sure would suck to make that dinner and find out the meat wasn't done well enough for half the people or something, wouldn't it?
    Analogues... great. Just great.

    The dinner isn't ready when they send it out for second opinion. It's not just a bunch of ingredients either. It's at the point where you can actually taste the flavour, but it's still slightly raw.

    This is why analogues are crap. You don't compare a meal to an MMORPG without missing the obvious.

    And you know who is the main audience and who are the guinea pigs testing? The 30k or so players have no better purpose, might as well use them. The food needs to be ready for the real audience. You are not a part of it. You are a paid beta tester playing the game voluntarily, regardless of what you think, for all intents and purposes.
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 07-11-2011 at 01:44 PM.

  2. #162
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    Google Translate

    Soon = すぐ
    すぐ = Now
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeking View Post
    Google Translate

    Soon = すぐ
    すぐ = Now
    that's kind of hard part about Japanese.
    Suguni demo daseru youni ganbarimasu - すぐにでも出せるようにがんばります = will try out best to release as soon as possible
    Ima Sugu ni daseru ka kentou chyuu desu - 今すぐにでも出せるように検討中です = Are looking into it if we can release it right away (now)

    same word but can be used differently with how it's put into the sentence with the word coming before/after.
    Try using Excite translator that one sees to do the job pretty good on JP to English, at least you'll get the general idea. Only problem with translators like this one is they have regular JP terms but anything in Katakana (English words/terms in Japanese without actual Japanese name) Example: Hamburger is Hamba-ga- in Japanese. and most computer terms, gaming terms are Katakana those normally screw up the translators. Or some good ones skip them by adding (..skipperd word...} on them but that also can cause problems with whole sentence structure after translation.
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  4. 07-11-2011 09:04 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    @Betelgeuzah so hope you've seen the new dungeon videos.

    Where at 1:39 everyone gets 1shotted by 1 guy, i guess they all suck ass ey? Since they dont have 10'000 HP to survive (since they get for 8k)

    Man im laughing so hard right now.
    I think it's fair to say they made a mistake to be put in a situation where that would happen. That ahriman might be a patrol or something they should avoid.
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  6. #165
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    exactly. Tha ahriman seems a patrol, since isn't even targetable. Don't have the name :X
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  7. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    @Betelgeuzah so hope you've seen the new dungeon videos.

    Where at 1:39 everyone gets 1shotted by 1 guy, i guess they all suck ass ey? Since they dont have 10'000 HP to survive (since they get for 8k)

    Man im laughing so hard right now.
    Seems that the above posters already got it covered.

    Either way, you still don't get it do you. If that 8k damage was a common occurrence and unavoidable, that makes the developers incompetent because they can't design content around the game mechanics they have created. Changing the game mechanics won't make them any less incompetent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    I think it's fair to say they made a mistake to be put in a situation where that would happen. That ahriman might be a patrol or something they should avoid.
    Thats the impression I get as well. They failed to meet a certain criteria and as punishment - they died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    @Betelgeuzah so hope you've seen the new dungeon videos.

    Where at 1:39 everyone gets 1shotted by 1 guy, i guess they all suck ass ey? Since they dont have 10'000 HP to survive (since they get for 8k)

    Man im laughing so hard right now.
    Then everyone is removed from the enmity list.

    We have reraise....right....erm....
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  10. #169
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    Rep Response: Target Lock but Camera Lock Off

    Continuation on the previous camera response from the rep.
    Previous translation: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post205982

    Quote Originally Posted by Mocchi View Post
    こんにちは。
    Hello,

    フィードバックありがとうございました!
    Thanks again for the feedbacks!

    あらためて、「コンフィグなどの設定により、ターゲットロックはONでカメラロックはOFF」という設定の実装が可能かどうかを開発チームに確認したところ、パッチ1.18よりも後のパッチになってしまいますが、カメラの見直しとあわせ対応しますとのことでした。
    I once again checked with the dev team if it's possible to "have target lock on, but camera lock off in config settings". It will be post 1.18 patch but we are going to work on this along along with other camera changes.

    もう少々お時間をいただくことになりますが、実装までお待ちいただければと思います。
    It may be some more time but please wait a bit more for release on this one.
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  11. #170
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    Good...they needed to take care of this for real... it really really really pissed me off on some battles like that Plant NM in the bushes/shrubs w/e take off target lock... (b4 I get smart a** comments lol yep you can pull it to open field but was too lazy for that, i should be able to fight anywhere i want.)
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