Translations (JP to English)

[Reinheart]

One thing I kind of didn't agree with though was opening FF14 up to a larger age range. I thought that the "Kid's Time" was a really good idea for DQ10 just based on its overall design, but FF14 was designed with adult dialog and I don't want to see things get watered down because they're trying to get younger people to play. I already know adults that play with their kids, and while I'm sure the kids may be skipping through dialog and just going out and mashing monsters, I don't want the narrative to suffer at the expense of bringing in younger players. I rather like the medieval and archaic narratives sometimes.

Don't want to derail too much from the thread but for this one, I think they are already planning stuff for the younger generation. Just looking at the baby Chocobo, Bomb, and Behemoth. They might be planning something easy to start off for the kids while adults can also enjoy those while doing more serious stuff in-game with older people.

I read on other threads people don't want FFXIV to become a amusement park, but for myself, I'm the exact oposite. I'd rather see this game continue and in order for that to happen SE needs to make revenue so why not make tons of little contents from young to older generations to get into. Just like anything, these are just extra options and it doesn't need to be played if you don't want to. SE just needs to make sure there is a fine line that both sides don't interfere, like having really good stat gear from a kids section of the game, while adult side has something that enhances skills/abilities w/e on the kids side. If they do something dumb like that, then it won't work. If they can keep kids contents just for kids, and older contents for them it should be fine imo. If they do continue the game for 10 years like they are doing with FFXI those kids who started FFXI are now grown up, FFXI didn't have that type of content so we ended up having kids in the party sometimes... At least this way we can separate them. That's another thing about Japan, like in the US you got kids playing WoW and stuff, in Japan you probably won't see that. Not just because MMO genre isn't big in Japan but they are more into Pokemon and other games at their age range, and unlike US the handheld systems are all over so they use those trade feature or adhoc systems while in the US you don't see too much of that, so they end up playing more console, computer games. It's just difference in culture, US more kids travel in school bus, or parents driving to and from home/school, while in Japan even the kids have to take the regular city bus, trains where they meet more than their regular group of people.

[Zehira]

Don't want to derail too much from the thread but for this one, I think they are already planning stuff for the younger generation. Just looking at the baby Chocobo, Bomb, and Behemoth. They might be planning something easy to start off for the kids while adults can also enjoy those while doing more serious stuff in-game with older people.

I read on other threads people don't want FFXIV to become a amusement park, but for myself, I'm the exact oposite. I'd rather see this game continue and in order for that to happen SE needs to make revenue so why not make tons of little contents from young to older generations to get into. Just like anything, these are just extra options and it doesn't need to be played if you don't want to. SE just needs to make sure there is a fine line that both sides don't interfere, like having really good stat gear from a kids section of the game, while adult side has something that enhances skills/abilities w/e on the kids side. If they do something dumb like that, then it won't work. If they can keep kids contents just for kids, and older contents for them it should be fine imo. If they do continue the game for 10 years like they are doing with FFXI those kids who started FFXI are now grown up, FFXI didn't have that type of content so we ended up having kids in the party sometimes... At least this way we can separate them. That's another thing about Japan, like in the US you got kids playing WoW and stuff, in Japan you probably won't see that. Not just because MMO genre isn't big in Japan but they are more into Pokemon and other games at their age range, and unlike US the handheld systems are all over so they use those trade feature or adhoc systems while in the US you don't see too much of that, so they end up playing more console, computer games. It's just difference in culture, US more kids travel in school bus, or parents driving to and from home/school, while in Japan even the kids have to take the regular city bus, trains where they meet more than their regular group of people.

Who said they don't like it an amusement park? Japanese? I hope not! o.o
The US has been making too much fantastic advices. >.<

BTW, glad you put it in hide, I was bombed everytime I see it! xP

Again, Reinheartさん、何をやってるの？今すぐやめて！そのサブリガは偽物だ、爆弾だぞ！ lol ^^

[Reinheart]

Rein want to translate the gist of the spectator mode topic so we can see what the Japanese players think? It's, of course, fine if you don't want to. I would do it myself but that would take about an hour and I'll be busy for the next two weeks in about 20 minutes...

For this one, that thread got over 60 likes now, pretty sure the NA reps relayed the message. I also think some of the stuff posted in there are interesting knowing how it was in XI running HNM and Dynamis LS myself, spectator mode would be good to have for sure.

Who said they don't like it an amusement park? Japanese? I hope not! o.o
The US has been making too much fantastic advices. >.<

BTW, glad you put it in hide, I was bombed everytime I see it! xP

Again, Reinheartさん、何をやってるの？今すぐやめて！そのサブリガは偽物だ、爆弾だぞ！ lol ^^

Nope was on NA side of the forums, can't remember which thread, wasn't really big thread but it catched my attention lol.
JP side of the forums are pretty quiet right now after the final event.

I dunno about the subligar signature, I liked it but I guess it was too much for some so I hid it finally... going to replace it with something smaller later and... サブリガは爆弾なんかじゃねぇ～　愛を広める為の道具さ♪　ラブ＆ピース！（トライガンのVash風に）

[Zehira]

JP side of the forums are pretty quiet right now after the final event.

That's good to know, they can take a break and enjoy in real life while waiting for BETA. NA people... ugh. >.< lol

Yes, the subligar is love and peace like how my name is meaning in Hebrew. ^^

[Kirito]

Don't want to derail too much from the thread but for this one, I think they are already planning stuff for the younger generation. Just looking at the baby Chocobo, Bomb, and Behemoth. They might be planning something easy to start off for the kids while adults can also enjoy those while doing more serious stuff in-game with older people.

I read on other threads people don't want FFXIV to become a amusement park, but for myself, I'm the exact oposite. I'd rather see this game continue and in order for that to happen SE needs to make revenue so why not make tons of little contents from young to older generations to get into. Just like anything, these are just extra options and it doesn't need to be played if you don't want to. SE just needs to make sure there is a fine line that both sides don't interfere, like having really good stat gear from a kids section of the game, while adult side has something that enhances skills/abilities w/e on the kids side. If they do something dumb like that, then it won't work. If they can keep kids contents just for kids, and older contents for them it should be fine imo. If they do continue the game for 10 years like they are doing with FFXI those kids who started FFXI are now grown up, FFXI didn't have that type of content so we ended up having kids in the party sometimes... At least this way we can separate them. That's another thing about Japan, like in the US you got kids playing WoW and stuff, in Japan you probably won't see that. Not just because MMO genre isn't big in Japan but they are more into Pokemon and other games at their age range, and unlike US the handheld systems are all over so they use those trade feature or adhoc systems while in the US you don't see too much of that, so they end up playing more console, computer games. It's just difference in culture, US more kids travel in school bus, or parents driving to and from home/school, while in Japan even the kids have to take the regular city bus, trains where they meet more than their regular group of people.

Wow you've been doing your homework... that is absolutely correct... I just can't imagine how they could implement a system for children. Since in order for most people to know the existence of these features, the game would have to impose all the players to play one round of all the mini-games in a quest... This may cause numerous complaints by the "adult" players. I don't think they should just keep it as a mention by the npc since some players don't read the story. Maybe there could be a note on the map about the "amusepark/kids section" or as apart of the tutorial all the players must go to certain area of the city to speak to some npc and one could be at the park...

And you are right. In Japan the handheld is prime means of playing video games. From what I've read almost all the youth in Tokyo have some sort of handheld. While in the U.S. more people enjoy the console. In fact the reason sony added cross play was to have a feature both the U.S and Japan could enjoy. We know ARR is going to be highly scalable and in order to take into account both of your points maybe a port to the vita would be the answer and have an offline mode that has the mini game feature for both the children playing ff14 and for the adult players that just want to play a mini-game while they don't have signal like in a tunnel, for example. I guess if they added the card game like in ff11 it could also attract more adult players that miss the card game. But I doubt that a solution like this will happen anytime soon for the main reason that the vita is still not in too many households compared to the psp...