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  1. #4611
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    ok then. Any info on tp generation in combat ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    ok then. Any info on tp generation in combat ?
    In the gamescom video it was 30 TP or 40 TP each 4 seconds
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  3. #4613
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    In the gamescom video it was 30 TP or 40 TP each 4 seconds
    Which means even though we start with a full TP bar, people still have to know how to pace themselves in combat to maximize results. I just hope this means Store TP in materia and gear goes away forever, otherwise we're gonna have people hoarding that stat to increase TP recovery or gain is auto attacks still generate TP.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  4. #4614
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Which means even though we start with a full TP bar, people still have to know how to pace themselves in combat to maximize results. I just hope this means Store TP in materia and gear goes away forever, otherwise we're gonna have people hoarding that stat to increase TP recovery or gain is auto attacks still generate TP.
    Why? That would mean actually Store TP materia and gear to further enhance your TP generation would actually be more beneficial than current version..or is it just another: "It's from FFXI, make it go away"...because honestly I don't see how that would make it go away when having Invigorate didn't stop them from creating the materia in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    They're also going to revise how combos work, as it would be really difficult to proc combos in PvP when your target is moving all over the place.
    In regards to combo, currently to continue combos, u need to be positioned in the right spot and facing certain directions (from left/right, from the back, from the front) this is hard to do for PvP so what they are doing is removing these conditions for the 2nd skill & 3rd skill and in return it will cost tp. So unlike the current system where once the combo starts, the continuing skills don't consume tp, in 2.0 they will so in order to connect and continue the combo u need to be careful about how u use your tp. He also notes for some combos, the initial skill might still be direction based, so to trigger the combo, u might have to hit from the side or from behind but once the combo starts, it won't depend on position but instead on tp.
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  6. #4616
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    I would like to put a simple translation I made of the talk show that happened during the Final Fantasy 25th event in Japan. It's mostly bullet points of the most important things that were said, and some of their conversations! I know that it would be translated and posted, but I also know that it would take some time to be posted... ^^

    Sorry Reinheart for invading your thread ^^;;... But I just didn't want to open another thread for this topic since there are millions... and it's a translation post so I thought it would fit here. Thank you btw for all your awesome translations!

    This is not a perfect translation. So please don't hold it against me if I have mistranslated something...
    Ok let's start:

    Server/ Engine
    • The lighting system is very advanced and allows for complex lighting effects, not only during the day but at night and in dungeons as well.
    • It was very challenging to port FFXIV:ARR to the PS3 due to low memory issues, but they did their best to optimize it the best way possible.
    • Load times and character movements are real time now, and the responsiveness of the game to the player’s actions has been improved a lot.
    • Multi Data centers: At the moment, there is only one data center in Japan, and all players are connected to it. Now they are making more data centers around the world to improve the server response. Players will still be able to play with everyone regardless of regions. This is just for the convenience of players not in Japan.
    • More flexible world transfers
    • Addition of communication support function
    • The engine can tolerate the new PvP design (It’s not forcefully done)
    • The servers can handle more players in one place as compared to before (was 400-500 players at a time, now around 1000). And for the mobs, it could handle 600mobs at a time and now it’s up to 2000. This will greatly affect the player’s experience, so they’re really happy about it.
    Quests and Main quests
    • A great number of quests have been added. The aim of these quests is to level, explore the world, story progression among other things.
    Host: These quests are all good for you first class/ job, but what about your second and third? What if you ran out of quests?
    Yoshi-p: Of course we are going to provide a large number of quests. But beside that we will keep on adding more, and there are other still unannounced contents, and others to be enjoyed with the public, such as NM’s, they are all being prepared. I hope that players don’t stay in one place doing the same things, but would rather they try many different contents and level in the process.
    Host: But what about people who are already level 50?
    Yoshi-p: They can look forward to the high level content we announced, and there are still some unannounced contents, such as raids, and new classes, chocobo raising, and other stuff. The amount of instanced dungeons is going to increase. There is going to be a level limit, but since we are adding level sync, which will allow level 50 players to go down to the required level of the content, players can group up with new players and do content together. And of course many high level dungeons are going to be added so please look forward to them.
    • For the main quests; it’s the same world but different. Since it’s now going through the 7th Umbral Era, and with the new game system, these have to be reflected in the game, and as a result it became completely different.
    • Parley has been taken out of the main quests (not sure about this one).
    • The general progression of main quests is, you do a couple of quests then fight a strong boss to be able to continue with your story. This will add a true sense of progression of RPG games. And with level sync this is going to improve the experience for all the players. Unlike currently in the game when people challenge the “weak” ifrit, it’s as if watching a cutscene and there is no actually fight.
    • A quest progression system has been added. And there is an “objectives” tab to make it easier to track you progression through these quests.
    Sound/ Music
    • Quest cutscenes will have Japanese VO not only English. The players will be able to change the audio language to any of the languages. The languages supported are Japanese, English, French and German.
    • The way music plays is going to change.
    Battle
    • The first thing you’re going to notice when you try out the battle system is the tempo, and how speedy it got.
    • Handling TP is going to change. In the current version the player had to fight to generate TP, but it changed to be similar to MP where you start the battle with full TP. The main reason to make it that way was due to PvP.
    • We have 3 types of actions: abilities, weapon skills, and magic. Currently abilities have a recast timer on them, while weapon skills and magic have TP and MP requirements respectively along with an added recast timer. However, in FFXIV:ARR the abilities will stay the same, while the weapon skills and magic will only require TP or MP. Obviously this will affect the speed of battle greatly.
    • Combos as well have been modified. Since in PvP it is going to be very difficult with the positioning requirements, players will feel like they are being punished for doing combos. So only the first move will require positioning (not sure about magic) while the rest of the combo will only require TP/ MP to be executed.
    • The parameters and stats and their formulas have been changed to be much simpler to understand. But still it would be very interesting so please look forward to it.
    Fan Questions
    Host: How will we fight together with our chocobo’s?
    Yoshi-p: You call it, a menu appears, select “fight together”. That’s it.
    Host: what about colors?
    Yoshi-p: We are thinking about various things.
    Host: We can jump now! But what about flying and swimming?
    Yoshi-p: I am more towards flying at the moment. Since it’s a Final Fantasy, and having airships and going to the skies sounds like a really nice idea to me. But this is all too soon to talk about.
    Host: Other than meteor what can we expect as limit breaks?
    Yoshi-p: Tifa’s… Tifa’s… Tifa’s…
    Host: Will Excalibur and Masamune appear as weapons?
    Yoshi-p: Of course I’m thinking of addind Excalibur when the time is right, but Masamune will come when the Samurai or Ninja jobs are introduced to the game.

    Arcanist and Summoner
    It’s the same as what I posted in the relevant thread regarding both of them, but I’ll just add the little comments and teases they made.
    • Please look forward to the auto-attack motion. (Throws the book?)
    • The players will be able to craft the books and they will have recipes. The class that crafts them is of course… can’t tell right now.
    • Summoners will not have carbuncle as a pet, but they’ll be using the primals as their source of power. However, not the primals themselves but they’ll use only a part of a primals strength. “A pet that the primals power dwells in” are Matsui’s exact words if I wasn’t mistaken.
    • The summoners will be able to borrow the power of 4 primals (this is what is planned till now, and could be expanded later on). The ones that are confirmed right now are Ifrit, and Garuda.
    Thank you very much and hope you enjoyed it

    This is the link to the thread to discuss anything related to this post, please do NOT spam Reinhearts thread. Thank you again!
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    Last edited by TenraiNagi; 09-04-2012 at 05:36 AM.

  7. #4617
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    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lol mnks get 7th heaven

    thank you for the update but you should make your own thread so people don't spam reins ><
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  8. #4618
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    You are right!! I'll make a new thread for this... Sorry Rein >.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by neorei View Post
    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lol mnks get 7th heaven

    thank you for the update but you should make your own thread so people don't spam reins ><
    I'm assuming you mean Final Heaven, unless you're implying that MNKs get a bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenraiNagi View Post
    I would like to put a simple translation I made of the talk show that happened during the Final Fantasy 25th event in Japan. It's mostly bullet points of the most important things that were said, and some of their conversations! I know that it would be translated and posted, but I also know that it would take some time to be posted... ^^

    Sorry Reinheart for invading your thread ^^;;... But I just didn't want to open another thread for this topic since there are millions... and it's a translation post so I thought it would fit here. Thank you btw for all your awesome translations!

    This is not a perfect translation. So please don't hold it against me if I have mistranslated something...
    Ok let's start:


    Server/ Engine
    • The lighting system is very advanced and allows for complex lighting effects, not only during the day but at night and in dungeons as well.
    • It was very challenging to port FFXIV:ARR to the PS3 due to low memory issues, but they did their best to optimize it the best way possible.
    • Load times and character movements are real time now, and the responsiveness of the game to the player’s actions has been improved a lot.
    • Multi Data centers: At the moment, there is only one data center in Japan, and all players are connected to it. Now they are making more data centers around the world to improve the server response. Players will still be able to play with everyone regardless of regions. This is just for the convenience of players not in Japan.
    • More flexible world transfers
    • Addition of communication support function
    • The engine can tolerate the new PvP design (It’s not forcefully done)
    • The servers can handle more players in one place as compared to before (was 400-500 players at a time, now around 1000). And for the mobs, it could handle 600mobs at a time and now it’s up to 2000. This will greatly affect the player’s experience, so they’re really happy about it.
    Quests and Main quests
    • A great number of quests have been added. The aim of these quests is to level, explore the world, story progression among other things.
    Host: These quests are all good for you first class/ job, but what about your second and third? What if you ran out of quests?
    Yoshi-p: Of course we are going to provide a large number of quests. But beside that we will keep on adding more, and there are other still unannounced contents, and others to be enjoyed with the public, such as NM’s, they are all being prepared. I hope that players don’t stay in one place doing the same things, but would rather they try many different contents and level in the process.
    Host: But what about people who are already level 50?

    Yoshi-p: They can look forward to the high level content we announced, and there are still some unannounced contents, such as raids, and new classes, chocobo raising, and other stuff. The amount of instanced dungeons is going to increase. There is going to be a level limit, but since we are adding level sync, which will allow level 50 players to go down to the required level of the content, players can group up with new players and do content together. And of course many high level dungeons are going to be added so please look forward to them.
    • For the main quests; it’s the same world but different. Since it’s now going through the 7th Umbral Era, and with the new game system, these have to be reflected in the game, and as a result it became completely different.
    • Parley has been taken out of the main quests (not sure about this one).
    • The general progression of main quests is, you do a couple of quests then fight a strong boss to be able to continue with your story. This will add a true sense of progression of RPG games. And with level sync this is going to improve the experience for all the players. Unlike currently in the game when people challenge the “weak” ifrit, it’s as if watching a cutscene and there is no actually fight.
    • A quest progression system has been added. And there is an “objectives” tab to make it easier to track you progression through these quests.
    Sound/ Music
    • Quest cutscenes will have Japanese VO not only English. The players will be able to change the audio language to any of the languages. The languages supported are Japanese, English, French and German.
    • The way music plays is going to change.
    Battle
    • The first thing you’re going to notice when you try out the battle system is the tempo, and how speedy it got.
    • Handling TP is going to change. In the current version the player had to fight to generate TP, but it changed to be similar to MP where you start the battle with full TP. The main reason to make it that way was due to PvP.
    • We have 3 types of actions: abilities, weapon skills, and magic. Currently abilities have a recast timer on them, while weapon skills and magic have TP and MP requirements respectively along with an added recast timer. However, in FFXIV:ARR the abilities will stay the same, while the weapon skills and magic will only require TP or MP. Obviously this will affect the speed of battle greatly.
    • Combos as well have been modified. Since in PvP it is going to be very difficult with the positioning requirements, players will feel like they are being punished for doing combos. So only the first move will require positioning (not sure about magic) while the rest of the combo will only require TP/ MP to be executed.
    • The parameters and stats and their formulas have been changed to be much simpler to understand. But still it would be very interesting so please look forward to it.
    Fan Questions
    Host: How will we fight together with our chocobo’s?
    Yoshi-p: You call it, a menu appears, select “fight together”. That’s it.
    Host: what about colors?
    Yoshi-p: We are thinking about various things.
    Host: We can jump now! But what about flying and swimming?
    Yoshi-p: I am more towards flying at the moment. Since it’s a Final Fantasy, and having airships and going to the skies sounds like a really nice idea to me. But this is all too soon to talk about.
    Host: Other than meteor what can we expect as limit breaks?
    Yoshi-p: Tifa’s… Tifa’s… Tifa’s…
    Host: Will Excalibur and Masamune appear as weapons?
    Yoshi-p: Of course I’m thinking of addind Excalibur when the time is right, but Masamune will come when the Samurai or Ninja jobs are introduced to the game.

    Arcanist and Summoner

    It’s the same as what I posted in the relevant thread regarding both of them, but I’ll just add the little comments and teases they made.
    • Please look forward to the auto-attack motion. (Throws the book?)
    • The players will be able to craft the books and they will have recipes. The class that crafts them is of course… can’t tell right now.
    • Summoners will not have carbuncle as a pet, but they’ll be using the primals as their source of power. However, not the primals themselves but they’ll use only a part of a primals strength. “A pet that the primals power dwells in” are Matsui’s exact words if I wasn’t mistaken.
    • The summoners will be able to borrow the power of 4 primals (this is what is planned till now, and could be expanded later on). The ones that are confirmed right now are Ifrit, and Garuda.
    Thank you very much and hope you enjoyed it

    This is the link to the thread to discuss anything related to this post, please do NOT spam Reinhearts thread. Thank you again!
    Haha sweet! I suggested multi-data centers in that feedback for connectivity issues thread . I really hope they get that done, for I will love them greatly for it.

    I feel the love.
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