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    Rep Response - 07/05/12 Regarding AF gear in AV

    Regarding Job AF quest

    People asked why devs put AF in AV where you have to have DH cleared and there are ones in DH and CC where you can just go and get.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mocchi View Post
    こんにちは。
    Hello,

    オーラムに入るためにゼーメルをクリアしないといけませんが、
    もう仕様ミスレベル、ジョブクエのストーリーとぜんっぜん関係ないですし。
    To get into AV you have to have DH cleared but I think this is developers miss, it has nothing to do with job quests story.
    確かに何か理由があるのだろうかと気になっていた部分でしたので改めて調べてみたところ……
    オーラムヴェイルは、「世界設定上、ゼーメル要塞の先に位置するレイドダンジョン」として設計されていました。
    I also thought there was a reason behind this and was wondering so I checked again and....
    AV was structured in the world as raid dungeon that comes after DH


    このような背景に基づき、帝国兵の存在が感じられるような魔導トランスポーターや、バリアが両レイドダンジョンに配置されており、上位のレイドダンジョンであるオーラムヴェイルに入るための条件にクエスト「ゼーメル要塞」の達成が設けられているようです。
    And based on that background both raid dungeons has transporters which gives a feeling of imperials being there, so it was setup as a higher raid dungeon AV you must clear the quest DH.

    ま た、各レイドダンジョンへ入るには最低4人でPTを組む必要があるため、LSに所属していない場合などは、AF装備を集めるのが容易ではないという意見が 少なからずありますが、新生版で導入予定のコンテンツファインダー(=自動マッチング機能)を利用することで解消されると見込んでいますので、それまでは 皆さんで助け合っていただければ幸いです。
    Also to get into each raid dungeon you will need at least 4 member PT so for those without LS I see there are comments that it's hard to obtain the AF's, by using 2.0's content finder (=auto matching system) will resolve this, until then would appreciate if everyone can help each other out.
    Mocchi didn't even answer the players questions really... so people on the thread what does that have anything to do with why people have to go to AV when for job quest storyline it has nothing to do with it at all.

    I also posted on there about the content finder issue here if devs think it can solve these issue... I can translate my own post if ppl want to know lol.

    anyways another post by Mocchi on same thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mocchi View Post
    こんにちは。
    Hello,

    問題なのは、なぜ(他のレイドクリアが前提となる)オーラムに箱を置いたか、なんです。
    AFクエにおいて、箱がレイドにあることに必然が感じられない、というのが上記の『仕様ミス』発言の趣旨のはずです。
    その点を踏まえて、もう一度回答をお願いしたいところです。
    The problem is WHY you put the box inside AV (Which required another raid to be cleared previously)
    With AF quest can't feel the necessity of having the box in the raid dungeon and that is the part we mentioned as a "miss" knowing this want to hear response.
    「AF装備はエンドコンテンツに挑戦しているプレイヤーに入手してもらいたい」との想いから、AF装備を入手するための条件に一律レイドダンジョンへの挑戦を入れています。
    For AF gear we want the players who is challenging in end content to get for that reason we added the challenge to raid dungeons.

    もし仮に、ジョブ専用装備が誰でも簡単に入手できてしまうのであれば、AFの価値は薄れますし、ゲームバランスも崩れてしまいますので、現状の設定(レイドダンジョンにAFが入った箱が設置されていること)は、妥当という判断をしています。
    If for example if you can obtain the Job Specific gear by anyone easily the value of the AF will decrease and would also break the game balance so we believe the current setting of having the AF box placed inside the raid dungeon is adequate
    I don't think Mocchi or the devs understanding the players issue with AV... I also noted that in my post that they should of just kept it as DH and CC or for those AF's in AV to have it where if player has progressed through the quest up till that part where you need to go to AV to be able to go in even without DH clear but make it where they can get the AF but the they wont be able to get the AV clear flag or the items from chests. (at least they can get the AF they are mainly going for)
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    Last edited by Reinheart; 07-06-2012 at 04:31 AM.