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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    Disappointing. Use the ban hammer !
    lol You can't ban people for developer's mistakes. Beside this isn't easily exploitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    lol You can't ban people for developer's mistakes. Beside this isn't easily exploitable.
    Just a rant for class stacking, don't bother :P
    BAN BAN BAN !
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    lol You can't ban people for developer's mistakes. Beside this isn't easily exploitable.
    Considering countless LSes who couldn't win before have won using it, I would say it's easily enough exploited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    lol You can't ban people for developer's mistakes. Beside this isn't easily exploitable.
    When did "Killing as fast as possible using spells" become an exploit though??
    The Moogle thing was a definite exploit.... (Even though it was the Devs mistake and therefore not bannable)

    But having 5 BLM's burn like crazy is no different than any other attempt.

    Its no different than soloing something on BLM and trying to nuke it down before it gets any attacks off..
    Isn't that the entire premise behind BLMs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    When did "Killing as fast as possible using spells" become an exploit though??
    The Moogle thing was a definite exploit....

    But having 5 BLM's burn like crazy is no different than any other attempt.
    From what I understand there is a glitch in the NPC AI, something to do with how it calculates remaining HP.
    And the fast burn employed by multiple back mages somehow causes this to break.

    Yes they are only doing as much damage as they can, but from what I read on the translations page, it seemed to imply that the boss was either taking more damage than was actually done, or dieing before it's hp was actually supposed to run out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fingerbox View Post
    From what I understand there is a glitch in the NPC AI, something to do with how it calculates remaining HP.
    And the fast burn employed by multiple back mages somehow causes this to break.

    Yes they are only doing as much damage as they can, but from what I read on the translations page, it seemed to imply that the boss was either taking more damage than was actually done, or dieing before it's hp was actually supposed to run out.
    Oh... Good info.. I was thinking the problem is that it was supposed to be like ifrit. With ifrit, he does hellfire 60 seconds after the nails come up.... So in theory you could burn him so fast after nails that he never gets a chance to hellfire. With this in mind, SE designed him so he would instantly hellfire if his HP goes below 5 or 10%
    I thought the Garuda burn is possible because that HP failsafe was not in place, which meant you could speed burn her to the point of not seeing her big epic move....
    I didn't know there was actually a discrepancy with the amount of damage done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fingerbox View Post
    From what I understand there is a glitch in the NPC AI, something to do with how it calculates remaining HP.
    And the fast burn employed by multiple back mages somehow causes this to break.

    Yes they are only doing as much damage as they can, but from what I read on the translations page, it seemed to imply that the boss was either taking more damage than was actually done, or dieing before it's hp was actually supposed to run out.
    uhm BLM doesnt cause it to break you can easily burn past the HP threshold without stacking BLM that triggers Aerial Blast.

    People use the term exploit to loosely in MMOs where it has a different meaning than the real life meaning. Raikki was using the RL meaning of using a feature where as in gaming the definition is using an unintended feature that gains one an unfair advantage over another.
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