Translations (JP to English)

[Estellios]

LOL I completely agree, it's not like this is beta with an NDA or anything.

Yeah haha it feels like they are seriously trying to rile us up since the 2 mages are the only ones without weapons.

[Alise]

Nobody here think that MRD is becoming a Dark Knight in that picture? the armor look so like a Dark Knight, and it is also come together with Paradin. I think FF11 has Dark Knight use Sword, and Scythe, it is possible that Dark Knight use Axe this time.

[ereskigal]

Yeah haha it feels like they are seriously trying to rile us up since the 2 mages are the only ones without weapons.

Think I remember them sayin that mages will be able to cast w/o having weapon out. Can someone else confirm this please.

[Chrees]

Think I remember them sayin that mages will be able to cast w/o having weapon out. Can someone else confirm this please.

I can confirm this. I'll find the post later, haha.

[Estellios]

Think I remember them sayin that mages will be able to cast w/o having weapon out. Can someone else confirm this please.

yeah they will but even so, they dont even have a weapon on their back/side or anything.

[Felis]

yeah they will but even so, they dont even have a weapon on their back/side or anything.

Maybe they used /display main off ^^
But aren't we now a bit too of-topic?
Back to translations, please ^^

[Arcell]

The problem with this concept is the lore behind conjurers. Here is a quote from Zam about Conjurer's guild



Personally I don't care if CON or THM lead to WHM, but I have been struggling with this ever since the jobs were announced. If CON lose their nukes, it will contradict the lore but if they become WHM which is likely it doesn't make much sense for the WHM to have the nukes. Not sure which way they will go.

I'm thinking jobs will have their own lore that transitions from the originating class. As others have suggested, maybe some of the lore for White Mage is that you lay down your offensive magic in favor of more potent healing spells. For Thaum > Black Mage maybe the Black Mages are a branch that focus specifically on the death aspect in terms of magic. My point being that the lore of the jobs doesn't have to follow the lore of the originating class 100%. They are separate entities for all intents and purposes.

[Betelgeuzah]

They are separate entities for all intents and purposes.

They are still linked to the classes they originate from. Plus, they complement each other. They are not separate.

[Arcell]

They are still linked to the classes they originate from. Plus, they complement each other. They are not separate.

And yet you didn't comment on the actual meat of the post. You're right they are linked but they are also different things entirely. A thaumaturge is not the same thing as a black mage and vice versa. The lore may require those interested in becoming black mages be well versed in the ways of Thaumaturgy but when they are classified as a black mage they are something completely different. The only link between jobs and classes is that one transitions into the other in some form.

[AlexNiculaie]

While an interesting conversation, perhaps it is one best suited to it's own dedicated thread rather than being held in this one.