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[Enyyx]

No one should have to pay 12mil for a mid tier weapon (in the grand scheme 50 is the current cap only until it's increased in 1-2 years).

So I can walk up to someone today and say "Hey, can you give me that Crab Bow +3 for 50k gil right now? You know it's going to be trash in 3 years right? lolz"

uh huh...

You pay high prices for whatever is the best *today*, for the benefit of using it *today*, not based on what it will be later. It's not mid-tier gear in 2011.

[AreeyaJaidee]

Nearly every server has a handful or more crafters with not only 50 in every craft, but also the guild abilities/traits as well.

The cold hard truth is that the people complaining about this patch were making out like Gil mongers from abusing the supply and demand.

Players bowed down to the asinine over inflated prices because there was nothing they could do about it since the crafters were monopolizing every facet of the market with their Gil greedy talons.

Now that SE is potentially balancing this issue, crafters are crying "unfair" because the control is swinging more towards the buyers choice.

[tachikoma]

I agree crafting HQ +3 gear is a retarded activity, the time spent to create an HQ +3 lvl 50 synth weapon is astronomical. To give a decent shot at a +3 you need all +3 (maybe some +2 mats) You need 300+ quality and then its still a 10%'ish chance (for weapons and certain gear) To get +3 mats like leather straps, ingots etc you have say 1% chance or less even with 300+ quality.

I have made over 100 banneret lances and have a total of 4 +2's and 1 +3. The time used in this process is easily in the hundreds of hours. (don't believe me see how long it takes to make 12 +3 brass plates).

I strongly think that the only reason we have these +3 goals is because we had nothing else to do in game for 6months strait. The adjustment of a simpler HQ system is very important, many players still have no idea what HQ means in this game or what a star means...

[Xenor]

I agree crafting HQ +3 gear is a retarded activity, the time spent to create an HQ +3 lvl 50 synth weapon is astronomical. To give a decent shot at a +3 you need all +3 (maybe some +2 mats) You need 300+ quality and then its still a 10%'ish chance (for weapons and certain gear) To get +3 mats like leather straps, ingots etc you have say 1% chance or less even with 300+ quality.

No you don't. Somewhere around 200 quality is enough to +3. I made a +3 oak bow with 210 quality, I've made a +3 crab bow with 246. You don't need to spam +3 plates to have a chance.

[AreeyaJaidee]

You are largely overreacting. HQ items will still be very valuable because getting HQ mats will be harder according to Yoshi's post. And before you sell your +3 items, there will be no +1 and +2 items, it will be NQ or HQ and +2 might end up converted in NQ, so I'd stick with your +3 items if I were you.

Most likely anything +1/2/3 will all be converted to HQ since they are all literally HQ versions.

[tachikoma]

Most likely anything +1/2/3 will all be converted to HQ since they are all literally HQ versions.

Highly doubt this statement, there are hundreds and hundreds of +1 items in circulation. Most likely is that +2/3 get combined into HQ and +1/nq => NQ

I'm not going to have a yard sale and dump all my +3 gear on the market but on the plus side my +2 gear should see a jump in value.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

Most likely anything +1/2/3 will all be converted to HQ since they are all literally HQ versions.

Doubt it, +1 will be NQ. They are just not sure about +2 if it will be NQ or HQ. They said they will need to look at the logs to see the number of +2 items in circulation.

Meaning, if there are a lot of +2 items around, they will most likely be NQ so that HQ items are rarer.

I strongly think that the only reason we have these +3 goals is because we had nothing else to do in game for 6months strait. The adjustment of a simpler HQ system is very important, many players still have no idea what HQ means in this game or what a star means...

I know I don't lol I have absolutely no idea what a star do, I know the gear is better but I don't know to what extent. Also I agree that the current HQ random process is retarded. This new way to HQ items, where you are sure to HQ when all your mats are HQ makes a lot of sense, what will keep the value of those HQ items is that getting HQ mats will be a lot harder so it won't devalue the HQ items that much, it will just be less random.

Edit: I think that if people still want to discuss this, they should start a thread because all we are doing right now is drowning Reinheart's translation thread.

[tachikoma]

Doubt it, +1 will be NQ. They are just not sure about +2 if it will be NQ or HQ. They said they will need to look at the logs to see the number of +2 items in circulation.

Meaning, if there are a lot of +2 items around, they will most likely be NQ so that HQ items are rarer.

I really hope this is the case, I would LOVE to see +3 convert to HQ only. I am a strong believer that HQ should be special and not everyone should be able to HQ everything. I think of HQ cursed gear being SUPER special to have.

[Anima]

So the changes that's going to happen are: [NQ>NQ|+1>NQ|+2>NQ|+3>HQ]?

[Perrin_Aybarra]

So the changes that's going to happen are: [NQ>NQ|+1>NQ|+2>NQ|+3>HQ]?

Most likely, but it depends on the ratio of +2 items that are currently in circulation in the game right now. If it's only a few %, then they might decide to convert +2 in HQ items/mats. But i think it will be NQ, to make HQ items rarer.