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    word for word and translation should never be used in the same sentence, like, ever >.>

    Rein might use different words, but ultimately he will come up with roughly the same meaning. I asked for the kanji earlier so that we could look into the meaning of the kanji and appropriate synonyms for the phrase in question, which has been the discussion since last page. Rein wouldn't be able to tell us much more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    word for word and translation should never be used in the same sentence, like, ever >.>

    Rein might use different words, but ultimately he will come up with roughly the same meaning. I asked for the kanji earlier so that we could look into the meaning of the kanji and appropriate synonyms for the phrase in question, which has been the discussion since last page. Rein wouldn't be able to tell us much more
    And I suspect that at some point next week, we'll get a clearer translation from Bayohne, Rukkiri or Okiput that lays down the correct version.
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    It is a very interesting discussion
    "うつろ" is a term that refers to the physical state of "Nothing inside" (= Empty), in Japanese.
    And also It is used to refer as a metaphorical expression for the "No meaning", "No value", "mental collapse" like that.

    But in this case, I guess "うつろ" is more close as meaning of ”An uncertain exist”
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    It might be that the name is a part from all of our characters hibernating. The survivors might have thought of us as empty shells leftover from the battle. This is because by the ending video nobody likely knew that Lousoix was planning on bringing all of characters asleep, so if any excavators found our bodies they might have thought they were shells before our characters woke up. Or, like someone else commented, our bodies was destroyed and recreated, which would explain the new appearance of our gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirito View Post
    It might be that the name is a part from all of our characters hibernating. The survivors might have thought of us as empty shells leftover from the battle. This is because by the ending video nobody likely knew that Lousoix was planning on bringing all of characters asleep, so if any excavators found our bodies they might have thought they were shells before our characters woke up. Or, like someone else commented, our bodies was destroyed and recreated, which would explain the new appearance of our gear.
    Will from the video it just seem like we was just teleport in time from the other video it say we send in time where we remain for a time. But from the new video it seem they was just teleport and only a few sec have pass for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Will from the video it just seem like we was just teleport in time from the other video it say we send in time where we remain for a time. But from the new video it seem they was just teleport and only a few sec have pass for them.
    Well... if you take away your mind or pause it for couple of years, when you resume it won't you feel like nothing happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirito View Post
    Well... if you take away your mind or pause it for couple of years, when you resume it won't you feel like nothing happened?
    i guess so lol but we don't know if they where stuck someone where no one knew for 5Years or if they just teleport within one sec guess we find out later .
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    So since we're "hollows", are we gonna fill up the Primalvessel with Primal Souls in order to open the Labyrinth of the First Flame, kill Bahamut, and relink the Aetheryte?
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    You're all taking the hollow thing out of context. There was no mention that we are actually "hollow" or "empty"; it is purely metaphorical as Aguri has mentioned. It is the way we are viewed by the people who lived through the 5 years of hardship that we skipped. Whether or not is some kind of derogatory statement towards us we will yet find.
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    Hollow beings, huh? My hallow form will clearly be in the shape of a tonberry :O.
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