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  1. #1911
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Or you could just be a troll who doesn't play the game at all anymore .. /cheer
    I'm not surprised you would say that, as it would render everything I said inaccurate and worthless, instead of accurate examples of irony at it's best.

    That said I have been level 26 for like a day at best. Few weeks ago I was level 13. Not playing my ass.

    "recipes? Man I am so entitled that I will bitch about SE not providing the service I deserve.

    Crafting and gathering as main classes? Eh I don't give a damn, I don't see why you guys feel like you are entitled. You aren't even paying customers."
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 11-09-2011 at 10:51 AM.

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    True Dat .. good conversation as always Betel
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  3. #1913
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    Hey all I'd like to see is some consistency.

    If you feel the way you do about where we stand as customers then it probably should be reflected in everything you say and not just issues you tend to feel indifferent about. That's insulting towards those who actually give a damn.

    I guess pointing that unfortunate fact out makes me a troll. At least in your eyes, no doubt.
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    I feel that way about anything in this game, we aren't paying so none of us have "a right", that being said we are basically playing a very long beta so we are all allowed an opinion.

    Disclaimer:- Thats not to suggest we are all allowed "the right" when we start paying
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    Last edited by Jinko; 11-09-2011 at 11:25 AM.

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    Then again, for a non-paying customer you feel that the dedication SE puts into providing the current service for you is insufficient. Or that SE isn't meeting your standards of beta patches.

    THe way you describe sounds like basically how I feel, all I'm saying is that it doesn't always really show like in the example above.
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 11-09-2011 at 11:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Hey Rein, can you throw up the Link to the JP DoL forum so we can like it?
    Here you go: http://goo.gl/WxTby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    Citation Needed
    The citation is having played for those 5 months. Anyone who did, knows.

    I personally have not stopped playing since alpha. Despite any and all of the flaws I have always thought this was a great game. Of course I've been playing MMOs so long I expect rocky starts. Clean ones are rare.
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  8. #1918
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    Here you go: http://goo.gl/WxTby
    Thanks Rein, Liked it right away.. hope I clicked the right one >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    Here you go: http://goo.gl/WxTby
    In this case I think I should translate that thread's OP's post since it got over 100 likes.

    Quote Originally Posted by TRIGUN View Post
    プロデューサーLIVE後編を見ていましたが、改めて実感しました。
    開発陣の言う「すべてはすべてのお客様のために」の"すべてのお客様"にギャザラーはいないようですね。
    I saw the 2nd part of the Producer Letter Live and I have once again realized that in dev's message "As always, everything we do will be for our players and customers. " in "our players and customers" Gatherer doesn't exist.

    昨今フォーラムにまったくポストがないギャザラーに関して、
    何かサプライズで発表があると信じていたのですが、
    最初に「ギャザクラも戦闘できるようになりますか?」という的外れな質問に対して
    戦闘職を上げろというさらに的外れな答えが返ってきただけでした。
    以降はギャザラーに関することは皆無でしたし……。
    (ハウジングのくだりで少し出ましたが、物品調達としか考えていない節が見えましたので除外)
    There is no post regarding gatherer and we were hoping for some type of surprise announcement but the first question was something unexpected which was about "Can gatherer also fight?" and from that question there was unexpected response as well where you said to raise DoW class.
    After that there was nothing about gatherer
    (It was mentioned a little along with the Housing but thinking it's only for supplying materials so not including that)


    これまでも、よしPは戦闘脳でギャザラーに興味がないのは感じていましたが、さすがにヒドイ。
    ご自身がギャザラーに興味がないのであれば、
    バトルに関しての松井氏のように、ギャザラーにも誰か担当を据える予定はないのでしょうか?
    (やらされる担当ではなく、ギャザラーをおもしろくしようとする気概のある人にしてください)
    I felt in the past that YoshiP is focused mainly on Battle but this is terrible.
    If you don't have any interest in Gatherer just like having Matsui who's in charge of the battle are there any plans to have someone in charge of Gatherer?
    (Instead of having someone put in charge to do it, would like to have someone who actually wants to make Gatherer fun)


    バトルで修練の入り方が変わったように、ギャザラーの修練の入り方や取得制限に改修したり
    オートアタックになって戦闘が変わったように、ギャザラーのミニゲームを別物に変更したり
    ゼーメルのように、ギャザラーがパーティを組んで楽しめるものを追加したり
    蛮神コンテンツのように、世界のどこかに眠る新種を発見するみたいなコンテンツを考えたり
    そういったことを、まったくやる気がないのは何故でしょうか?
    Just like how exp gain changed for battle, have the gatherers exp gain changed or change the exp limitations, or like how auto-attack was added and battle changed, to change the gatherers mini-game to something else. Like DH have a content where gatherers are able to form a party and enjoy. Like primal battle have a content where you find a new race somewhere in this world; why isn't there anything like this?

    出したら怒られるといいながら嬉々としてイラストを出すのもいいですけど
    ギャザラーの行く末についてもう少し真剣に考えて話してくれませんかね?
    ぜひとも開発からレスポンスをお待ちしております。
    It's alright releasing images while saying you're going to get in trouble but could you please think seriously and talk more about future of gatherers?
    Would really like to hear response from the dev team.
    Now personally I don't agree with everything this OP said but I do also want to know what the dev team has for the future for DoL so I like that post.

    Also just a reminder but YoshiP supposed to comment on this one hopefully sometime today (JP time)
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  10. #1920
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    Speaking of DoL:
    • At the least, grade six nodes please.
    • Challenging mission fights for DoW/DoM. I guess it will have to be a 2.0 thing, but it sucks mightily that non-fighting classes constrained missions to death. Would be nice to see separate missions for DoL/DoH. And no, not parley. Who had the idea for parley anyway? Put them in an instance and let the DoL use stone-throw on them.
    • Deeper changes to make DoL more interesting and viable as a primary class would be welcome, but I'm not sure what these changes might be.

    Always interesting to find out what the other populations of players are concerned about. Thanks for the info Reinheart.
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