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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    Str -10 INT +10 is not the idea i had in mind.

    Only good one is prime conditioning .... basicly im hoping traits will be useful and not suck.

    uhh there are a lot of good ones

    prime conditioning
    firm conviction - defense up while casting, and its pretty noticeable
    fast cast- shorter cast times
    gladiators increased shield block rate, only good for shield users, but a must for those
    marauder more enmity per action
    archer less enmity per action
    lancer fleet of foot

    and the cross class up skills increase potency/acc and lower cast times


    Id say just about all of them are very good, though they definately could use more traits per class.

    I hope they dont make them not cross classable at all though..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    uhh there are a lot of good ones

    prime conditioning
    firm conviction - defense up while casting, and its pretty noticeable
    fast cast- shorter cast times
    gladiators increased shield block rate, only good for shield users, but a must for those
    marauder more enmity per action
    archer less enmity per action
    lancer fleet of foot

    and the cross class up skills increase potency/acc and lower cast times


    Id say just about all of them are very good, though they definately could use more traits per class.

    I hope they dont make them not cross classable at all though..
    Well i think things like
    Duel wield
    Double attack
    Auto refresh
    Magic Att up
    Att up
    TP gain up
    HP up
    Def up etc.

    are class defining skills. Increased block rate? really?

    Traits in ff11 made the job different and fun. A lil less hate and more blockiing just did not cut it IMO. again im hoping the new traits will be useful and not suck.
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    Last edited by DNO; 11-08-2011 at 05:04 AM.

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    The confusing part is the way the map is laid out. Most NA people read left to right, and the first thing they see on the map is the vertical coordinates. Leading to confusion errors. When using <pos>, the coordinates are Horizonatal: Vertical, as per normal maps.
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    auto refresh? dont we have that already?
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    Well as this is a thread for rein to work hard and get info out ill leave it as ill agree to disagree. FF11 traits are better hands down and i hope that SE sees that. I am sure they do thats why they are changing it. Anyway this is my last post about that.
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    This is an epic case of trying to save face and failing at it.
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    I do agree with DNO though and it's not necessarily biasness, it's just auto-traits you grow into (and grows with you) is just overall a better system. XIV does have good traits, but the way it's done is pretty backwards since they tried to give absolute freedom and it couldn't be done.

    They did say they wanted to introduce multiple attack weapons eventually, so adding said traits are a good start too.
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    Hey Reinhardt,

    I have a request if you don't mind! If you happen to come across the (specific) method people are using to obtain the 100k gil from a levequest achievement, I (and many others too!) would be very grateful if you could translate the info for us and post it in that particular thread. It seems many japanese players are getting it now, so it musn't be a big secret anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Hey Reinhardt,

    I have a request if you don't mind! If you happen to come across the (specific) method people are using to obtain the 100k gil from a levequest achievement, I (and many others too!) would be very grateful if you could translate the info for us and post it in that particular thread. It seems many japanese players are getting it now, so it musn't be a big secret anymore.
    Found this one from the Lodestone Blog : http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...entry?e=269002

    Another blog post with image: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...entry?e=268819

    dunno which faction leve are what since names are different on JP and NA locale.

    He took the following faction leve's

    ブロークンブレード中隊
    40リーヴ 『イクサル掃討戦』 ドラゴンヘッド
    Lv40 Ixali - Dragon head

    アーゼマシールズ中隊
    40リーヴ 『賞金首「ガマ使いのフェモモ」』 ドラゴンヘッド
    Lv40 The one with giant toads - Dragon Head

    ハンズアイ小隊
    Hanseye?

    30リーヴ 『鎧櫃の回収』 グローリー
          『飛空便の回収』 グローリー
          『香箱の回収』 グリダニア
    Lv30 collection one, 2x at Camp Glory and 1 and Gridania

    40リーヴ 『スプリガンの秘宝奪取』 リバーズミート
    Lv40 Spriggan one at Camp Revesemeet? Rivers Meet?

    ----- this wasn't enough for this guy so he did one more faction.

    ハンズアイ小隊
    20リーヴ 『椎の実弾の回収』 リムサ
    Hanseye - Lv20 Limsa quest.

    ---
    Then after that he waited till the leve update until the one with 100k+ reward one come up.
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    Last edited by Reinheart; 11-08-2011 at 07:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    ブロークンブレード中隊
    40リーヴ 『イクサル掃討戦』 ドラゴンヘッド
    Lv40 Ixali - Dragon head

    アーゼマシールズ中隊
    40リーヴ 『賞金首「ガマ使いのフェモモ」』 ドラゴンヘッド
    Lv40 The one with giant toads - Dragon Head

    ハンズアイ小隊
    Hanseye?

    30リーヴ 『鎧櫃の回収』 グローリー
          『飛空便の回収』 グローリー
          『香箱の回収』 グリダニア
    Lv30 collection one, 2x at Camp Glory and 1 and Gridania

    40リーヴ 『スプリガンの秘宝奪取』 リバーズミート
    Lv40 Spriggan one at Camp Revesemeet? Rivers Meet?

    ----- this wasn't enough for this guy so he did one more faction.

    ハンズアイ小隊
    20リーヴ 『椎の実弾の回収』 リムサ
    Hanseye - Lv20 Limsa quest.

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    Then after that he waited till the leve update until the one with 100k+ reward one come up.
    After some additional reading, only 5 of these quests are mandatory (see below), then you complete the 8 by adding in any 3 random faction leves of your choice.

    1. Operation Scar and Defender from the Broken Blades. (cost 300)

    2. Wanted: Toadsquatter Femomo from Azyma's Shield. (cost 300)

    3. A Weighty Problem from the Horn and Hands. (cost 200)

    4. Heat of the Moment from the Horn and Hands. (cost 200)

    5. Golden Opportunity from the Horn and Hands. (cost 300)
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    Last edited by KyrsIsley; 11-08-2011 at 12:40 PM. Reason: additional info

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