Any Word On Group Roulette?

[Shioban]

They already said they're adding this.

As far as I recall it was 2.2 or slightly after.

The point of the roulette is to get players to play old content so it doesn't dry up. If they implement a group roulette people will only play with their friends again and pugs, newbies and people who are soloing will have 18 hour ques again.

People who want to queue solo will still queue solo.

People who want to queue with their friends will queue with their friends anway.

This won't change too much. Why restrict people who wish to play an MMO with friends, when there are plenty of people who prefer and or currently play solo?

For an MMO that originally promoted playing with your friends as its biggest factor, it sure has ruined that image with ARR so far. (IE. Coil Lockout/Solo content)

Even the job quests are solo now, most of the old friends/stranger friendly content is all but gone.

[Tule]

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It will change. Because the people who que with friends are now queing solo. I am one of them. It stimulates the DF for solos. I would be for 2 player party roulette. But even that is iffy if the 2 players are both DPS and then take up a tank and healer together.

I'm a healer with friends. No matter what happens I'm set, but I am thinking about others. Duty Roulette is only once a day for the good stuff. I doubt anyone playing an MMO needs the bonus 40 marks that badly. If you are going que quickly and run a dungeon with your friends I am sure you can run two dungeons.

[Shioban]

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Sorry the way you've typed that has made it really confusing.

But I still don't see how it's a huge issue. A lot of people primarily play these games to play with friends, having no option to do one of the main pieces of content with your friends is a shame. Since the duty roulette came out I've played with friends less and less, having the option to complete our daily roulette together would be much more fun.

Yes, there's a chance it might slow down the 'solo' queues as you said, but at the same time it's stinting the main point of this game.
Even if it is "Once a day" that's still "Once a day" I can't play with friends.

[Tule]

Sorry the way you've typed that has made it really confusing.

But I still don't see how it's a huge issue. A lot of people primarily play these games to play with friends, having no option to do one of the main pieces of content with your friends is a shame. Since the duty roulette came out I've played with friends less and less, having the option to complete our daily roulette together would be much more fun.

Yes, there's a chance it might slow down the 'solo' queues as you said, but at the same time it's stinting the main point of this game.
Even if it is "Once a day" that's still "Once a day" I can't play with friends.

How is it stinting it? You don't HAVE to do the duty roulette. The duty roulette has no unique content. You are choosing 40 tomes over your friend. If 40 tomes means "you no can no longer enjoy the game with your friends" then you must not really be friends. And again, its 40 tomes ONCE a day.

[Sunah]

They already said they're adding this.

As far as I recall it was 2.2 or slightly after.

People who want to queue solo will still queue solo.

People who want to queue with their friends will queue with their friends anway.

This won't change too much. Why restrict people who wish to play an MMO with friends, when there are plenty of people who prefer and or currently play solo?

For an MMO that originally promoted playing with your friends as its biggest factor, it sure has ruined that image with ARR so far. (IE. Coil Lockout/Solo content)

Even the job quests are solo now, most of the old friends/stranger friendly content is all but gone.

Finally one smart person.

[Gilthas]

If you're asking to queue as a group for Duty Roulette to get the bonuses, you're basically asking them to throw out the window the main reason why they put it in the game in the first place: to help people playing solo get a group more easily.

DR doesn't prevent people from doing stuff with their friends. Surely capping your weekly tome allowance slower is a small price to pay for being able to play with your friends. Hell, most people in my FC cap their Myth during THs.

[DxWings]

If they're going to add a group roulette, I second the thought other players have mentioned.
"Remove the bonus associated with the roulette if queuing in a party equating to two or more players."
Either that, or don't bother working on a group roulette feature. Its just going to negate the current purpose of the DR if the bonus still applies to a group queuing.

[Shioban]

If you're asking to queue as a group for Duty Roulette to get the bonuses, you're basically asking them to throw out the window the main reason why they put it in the game in the first place: to help people playing solo get a group more easily.

DR doesn't prevent people from doing stuff with their friends. Surely capping your weekly tome allowance slower is a small price to pay for being able to play with your friends. Hell, most people in my FC cap their Myth during THs.

The problem is, dungeons were one of the only things I could do with friends outside of a static group.
Coil, primals and sometimes even the Crystal Tower parties are the same tight knit groups, only when it comes to the daily roullete did people think "Wow, I wish I could go with my friends I never get to play with anymore..."

Dungeons aren't the only content you can do with friends, but if you can get your bonuses together and have fun at the same time, why not group together?

How is it stinting it? You don't HAVE to do the duty roulette. The duty roulette has no unique content. You are choosing 40 tomes over your friend. If 40 tomes means "you no can no longer enjoy the game with your friends" then you must not really be friends. And again, its 40 tomes ONCE a day.

I still don't get why it's an issue.

Two Roulletes

[Solo and Group Roulette], you'd still have the option to do either. Nothing is forcing you to group up for daily roulletes, and nothing is forcing you to do them solo either (once released).

You're still going to be paired with other players seeking a dungeon regardless of this new addition, so what difference would it make if you both queued seperateley or in a group? The difference is particularly minimal.


People will still queue solo. Other MMO's have proven this.

I usually heal or tank and a buddy of mine does the opposite of what I am doing. Since the introduction of Roulette we noticed that the amount of time we were spending together hanging out dropped to almost never. So we stopped doing Roulette because we want to hang out together. SO you just lost a healer and tank from the DF, does that make it faster for you?

Exactly. This is the only point I want to get across strongly.

I'm missing finding things to play with friends (outside of weekly locked out content), which there simply doesn't seem to be in ARR at the moment.

[Tule]

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Because people will group que with an entire party. Then get the daily bonus. The daily bonus is suppose to support DF and solos. You can already get quick, fast and smooth runs with your friends. You don't need more incentive on top of that. Which is why I said two might work. More than that defeats the primary purpose. DPS will still be sitting in ques for hours on end because two dps and a tank que'd together and stole the solo healer sitting in the waiting pool.

[cotti]

"I want to play only with my friends and receive a prize for it!"