Botting

[wicked-one]

I reported and blacklisted by now about 50 RMTs and Bots.

The <deleted Character> shows up very rarely in my Blacklist....

[Lucke]

I reported and blacklisted by now about 50 RMTs and Bots.

The <deleted Character> shows up very rarely in my Blacklist....

99% of the player base doesn't seem to understand what this means. <deleted> only means they deleted the characters themselves. If SE deletes or bans them, whatever, it still shows their name.

[wicked-one]

99% of the player base doesn't seem to understand what this means. <deleted> only means they deleted the characters themselves. If SE deletes or bans them, whatever, it still shows their name.

source, pls

[Lucke]

source, pls

Don't need a source. Talk to one of your friends. Get them to make an alt. Befriend the alt. Then have them delete the alt. See if their alt's name shows <deleted>. I have a few <deleted> on my friends list from people I befriended from 1.0. however maybe like 2 or 3 RMT names on my blacklist show <deleted>.

[Bixby]

Don't need a source. Talk to one of your friends. Get them to make an alt. Befriend the alt. Then have them delete the alt. See if their alt's name shows <deleted>. I have a few <deleted> on my friends list from people I befriended from 1.0. however maybe like 2 or 3 RMT names on my blacklist show <deleted>.

But here, have a source anyway:

Hello, all! This is LGM Enkrateia here. I don't mean to bump up an old discussion; however, this particular quote is related to a concern that seems to be increasingly included in RMT solicitation reports.

As time goes on, we are getting more and more RMT reports including the information that the blacklist is already full of RMT, so more cannot be added. Some reports that include a bit more information note that only prior entries that have changed to "Deleted" are being removed to make room for new entries.

I wanted to provide a bit of information and insight to address these concerns, which will hopefully help keep you from filling up your blacklist with RMT names that are never removed.

Once an account is found guilty of RMT solicitation, it is suspended indefinitely. However, the characters on that account are not deleted, since the suspension of the account is sufficient to prevent further solicitation from the account. Deleting the characters is an additional step that is not taken, since it is unnecessary, time consuming, and could result in account damage or loss in the case of a suspension that needs to be lifted, such as in the case of a compromised account used for RMT solicitation.

The blacklist is recommended as a temporary resolution to alleviate the unwanted solicitation, and is not meant to be a permanent state you place these names into. Removing the names periodically should allow us time to complete our investigation, and free up room in your blacklist if another account is used to solicit RMT.

I will be monitoring this thread to try to provide answers or insight into questions or comments about the topic of RMT reporting and handling. I do also understand that it is a very frustrating concern for many of you, and ask that you keep discussions, comments, and suggestions civil.

Lead Game Master Enkrateia

[Nysneirdre]

I used to report every single bot I found but after the weeks rolled by and the same ones were still out there, I gave up. It had become apparent to me nothing was getting done about it. The markets are still flooded with goods sold by bots and people keep buying their stuff. Nothing can be done about it. So I pretty much stop gathering raw mats and selling them. I'm getting burned out and I'm logging in less. I think the time is coming to close the account. I honestly don't think they will ever go after the bots. I have been tracking a bot guild on my server for months and their number has actually grown.

[LalaRu]

I blame more the people who gives money to the RMT, than RMT themselves.

[ruskie]

Hmm I must say I haven't noticed any bots so far from leveling fisher, leveling botanist and now leveling miner. Maybe it's just luck for me - and yes I did gather some 2k shards at one point for my FC because we needed it... that was mind numbingly tedious.

[Simbuul]

The only thing we could hope is that the staff can avoid that this kind of stuff happens over and over...

[Nero]

I seriously do not care about Bots that much, until they try to monopolize a certain Farming-Spot or Items. There was a group with a FC on Hyperion botting Apkallu-Eggs, crafted the food, sold it. They also botted PvP and certain other things and i have reported them up to a dozen times A DAY. I have not seen them since a month now and if you check their Lodestone it seems they stopped playing. So i guess they finally received the ban, all of them.

It is hard for SE to actually confirm if it is a bot or not. They need to have actual evidence to ban them, so if people wonder why certain bots/rmt are still there:

1. They are smart enough to not get caught, even if it is obvious to a player.
2. They are not monopolizing or do not have an impact on the actual economy.
3. They are simply not bots.

You can easy macro a full recipe and just click 1 button here and there, people do not have to answer your tells, hardcore farmers do exist and do that for hours without using 3rd party tools and also certain RMTs do not bot at all. RMT's receive a ban if SE has evidence they are involved in RMT activities, which has hardly anything to do with botting.