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    I wish we could see what the producers originally intended for these jobs when they first thought them up. If they had thought so many people would be up in arms over there being no specific healer in the party would they have explained that it's like this for a reason, or did they just think "It's easier to give both mage classes have a form of healing since we think people will be soloing a lot." Or maybe they thought that since you can customize your characters stats that you'd make your stats more towards healing if you wanted to be a healer.

    As it is I don't have a HUGE problem with being a gray mage, when I was Whm in FFXI I wished I could still do some damage in a party rather then just healing. Now I know, "If you felt like that then why didn't you play as Red Mage, duh!" Well Red Mage was just a bit too much work for me. When I got Smn it was perfect for me, my summon did all the damage that I wanted to do and with my Whm subbed I could heal myself or my party members if need be.
    I understand why people want to have separate mage classes, but at the moment I'm happy with how the Conj. Job is.
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    Lily Lovelace
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyrumi View Post
    I wish we could see what the producers originally intended for these jobs when they first thought them up. If they had thought so many people would be up in arms over there being no specific healer in the party would they have explained that it's like this for a reason, or did they just think "It's easier to give both mage classes have a form of healing since we think people will be soloing a lot." Or maybe they thought that since you can customize your characters stats that you'd make your stats more towards healing if you wanted to be a healer.

    As it is I don't have a HUGE problem with being a gray mage, when I was Whm in FFXI I wished I could still do some damage in a party rather then just healing. Now I know, "If you felt like that then why didn't you play as Red Mage, duh!" Well Red Mage was just a bit too much work for me. When I got Smn it was perfect for me, my summon did all the damage that I wanted to do and with my Whm subbed I could heal myself or my party members if need be.
    I understand why people want to have separate mage classes, but at the moment I'm happy with how the Conj. Job is.
    Simple, the original developers of the game had no clue what they were doing. Now that we have the right team on the FFXIV project I assume we are going to see many MANY much needed changes, including having a dedicated healer class.
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    Alicia Silvermoon
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    HOW TO BE A DEDICATED HEALER:

    -Level Conjurer
    -Level Thaumaturge
    -Only use healing and buffing spells

    So far it's been working great for me. No need to force people to heal, if you want to heal you already have the right to do so.
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    ^ Hear hear, I have Conj to 40 and Thau to 27 and healing the party is NEVER an issue for me. now, keeping hate off myself seems to be a bit harder, but im working out the kinks in my own playing style to overcome that :P
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    Ive been playing since Launch and Im still sitting in the rank 30s. Hell, I've been playing since Alpha.

    We need our roles define. We need an advantage to be a healer as CNJ over THM. I at least get the sense that SE now understands this, but with only one big update to CNJ (MP Auto Regen) in five months, How long do I have to wait?
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    The sad truth is that the game designers have lost their way with designing the magic using jobs. None of the jobs have the Final Fantasy feel to them. They're just slow induction AoE DPS/Heal jobs. No finesse and no Final Fantasy immersion to the jobs.
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    I'm also going to have to disagree.

    I very much like the fact that I am able to choose between being offensive and defensive. Part of the beauty of FFXIV is that we have so much choice. The beauty is we AREN'T pigeon-holed into a role. And I love that. If you split it, I have to choose between only healing or only DDing, which completely takes away my versatility.
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    Considering that they mention "White Mage" as an example for class names that are going to be used when they switch the current ones to traditional ff names, it would make sense that they will actually split the CON into 2 classes. I for one am completely for the change. I would love to be a dedicated no questions asked type of healer. It would make joining groups a lot easier since everyone will know what role I play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower View Post
    Considering that they mention "White Mage" as an example for class names that are going to be used when they switch the current ones to traditional ff names, it would make sense that they will actually split the CON into 2 classes. I for one am completely for the change. I would love to be a dedicated no questions asked type of healer. It would make joining groups a lot easier since everyone will know what role I play.
    And that is my key point. Role Ambiguity would be solved, and class uniqueness would be right there with it.
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    Leave Conjurer be! If you want a white mage and black mage go back to FFXI. You already have white and black magic. Limiting yourself isn't going to accomplish anything.
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