Job question

[ColorOfSakura]

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Oh, I'm not suggesting they use it as a main source, just as a way to initially grab and hold all the targets in a mob so that they can use overpower afterwards. I've been in quite a few low level dungeon runs where my gear made me a huge target and I would peel enmity off Marauders, even only healing when necessary and not overhealing. Flash just gives a nice initial burst of enmity gain that can be used in conjunction with stuff like Overpower to catapult the tank out of range of the healer yanking the mob accidentally.

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You're right, I looked at the cross class actions again. I thought Eye for an Eye was an Archer trait...I was waaaay wrong on that. So yeah, just the one Tertiary class.

[Cap75]

Speaking of enmity, what's the major factors in pulling it? The first time I did the mine no healers were available so I went with 3 DPS (one being myself) and a tank. One of the DPS was a spell caster but I forget which kind. So it generally went hilariously bad but we kept trying. The tank would die in two seconds leaving the three of us. This worked for one reason: every mob focused solely on the spell caster. No matter how much damage we DPS did the spell caster could just run in circles and have a massive train behind him even though he wasn\\'t casting a thing.

Me and him beat the final boss ourselves through 20 mind of epic kiting. I couldn't kill the ads fast enough so it turned into the boss and a train of ads following him around the room while I tossed lances into its back and did flank attacks or limit breaks every time it paused. Neither it nor any of the ads ever gave me a second look even though I was doing all the damage, even as far as dropping double LBs in it.

[Bixby]

I just posted a little enmity run-down for someone in another thread, so not gonna type that up again.

What it comes down to is if your tank was dead, that caster was doing more damage than you. Or enough healing on the side to overcome your damage. On the boss, they could've had DoTs ticking or using instant-cast spells (Can't remember when THM gets Scathe; edit: it's 15, so if it was a THM, this is possible) while running.

Edit: I will add on that since you're basically talking about DPS vs. DPS, no DPS classes have moves with enmity modifiers. They're all 1xDamage. ARC/BRD have Quelling Strikes to reduce enmity, but the only way a DPS can spike their enmity without just doing more damage is by cross-classing something from a tank class (Flash, Provoke, Skull Sunder, Savage Blade). Most won't have those as cross-class skills, because they generally shouldn't. It is possible, though.

[Cap75]

That is incredibly helpful. Thanks! I'm guessing the THM had to popping instant spells on the run that I just didn't see due to the huge mob between us and my lack of familiarity as to what to look for.