Wicked Wheel on Garuda EX

[Lemon8or]

Don't have just the ranged DPS on Suparna. Have the OT pulls it over after Chirada is dead then melees can hit it safely as well.

[PArcher]

Don't have just the ranged DPS on Suparna. Have the OT pulls it over after Chirada is dead then melees can hit it safely as well.

And random WW wipes the melee out...

Yes, Sup still uses WW even after Chi is dead.

[Lemon8or]

And random WW wipes the melee out...

Yes, Sup still uses WW even after Chi is dead.

I have never seen this happen whether when I tank or DPS. Are you sure that DPS didn't get hit by Garuda's WW which is what remains until Suparna is dead? Video proof?

[ValkyrieL]

The normal strategy is MT takes Garuda/Surpana, OT Takes Chirada+Voke spiny at start of Tornado phase, than switch Spiny with Surpana after Chirada dies (OT Voke CD should be over if he had control of spiny on previous phase, if DPS is high it may have to wait ~5 sec to voke surpana from MT). Yoshi said that the INTENDED
strategy for Garuda Extreme was the the JP strategy, MT tanks Garuda, OT Tanks Surpana, The rest of the Party takes Chirada and SPLIT downburst Dmg from chirada.

[Bardo]

Why not use the Japanese "triangle" strategy when you have melee?

During Tornados:
MT brings Garuda to the NW
OT brings Suprana to the NE
DPS brings Chirada together with the entire group to the SW.

Single target LB to kill Chirada. The only attack you have to worry about is Slipstream, in which case you just run through her.
If DPS is REALLY low and you can't kill her before downburst, just stack everyone in front of her because it splits the damage.
When Chirada is about to go down, Suprana and Garuda will automatically jump and switch places, which puts Suprana at the NW corner.
Easy to tackle/jump to and melee NEVER have to worry about being in range of Garuda.
And since the damage on the tanks will be lower and the melee start out together with the healers, it's far easier for sch to hit them with a succor/adloquiem/stoneskin before they tackle/jump across to suprana.
So even if you do get hit by an oddly timed WW, you will survive.

Doing it like this also means the two tanks are much closer to each other so provoking the spiny is MUCH easier than trying to run through the middle of the map to trade. And since they don't have to provoke sisters/garuda off each other, it doesn't matter where the spiny goes at the start, both of them will have provoke up. This helps to mitigate some of the weird aggro BS that can happen with the spiny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcdjFWybJF0

[Kuroyasha]

Why not use the Japanese "triangle" strategy when you have melee?

I tried to do it on my server, but some people act like they're learning Calculus II doing the triangle strategy >_>. We had 3 DPS on Chirada in the split. Where was the 4th you ask? Away in a corner b/c for some reason they kept moving away like it was the "normal" NA strat, even when we said/explained 3-way multiple times b4 the start. Other DPS weren't moving through slipstreams so it was basically a wipe when getting hit by downburst afterwards for them.

One healer was good (sch), whm would never group heal after downburst(like where's cure 3? lol). Then b/c dps were dead, sup/garuda swap while chi is alive and that's a wrap. I like 3-way best personally, but man it's a pain trying to teach old dogs new tricks, especially when they leave/ragequit after a couple tries.

[Kitfox]

I've been doing triangle with my coil static a few times now on Garuda since I usually like to play melee. I can confirm that I've never seen Suparna use Wheel after DPS have killed Chirada, Garuda does keep using it though. The good thing about triangle is that there's much less burst damage on tanks and no wheels to dodge, so it's safer to do in general, even a less geared team can do it. Now if you're geared to your teeth I would still do it because it's so safe that you can drop one healer for a 5th DPS and keep the safe factor while making for a speedy kill, and your DPS composition doesn't matter.

[Almalexia]

my monk with 4300 hp.

1. Fists of Earth as you approach Garuda
2. Ask for SS at the start of each clone phase - doesn't matter if it's from SCH or WHM.
Bonus: Galvanize or Sacred Soil if your SCH gives a shit.
3. Don't get hit by anything else
4. You'll soak WW with 300-700 HP left. More with SCH bonus buffs.
5. Switch back to Fists of Fire.

TWO Wicked Wheels

You shouldn't see more than 1 WW from Garuda if your DPS is on the ball.