Tank End Game

[Poosammich]

Was talking about this last night... PLD in XIV is not PLD from XI.... In XI paladins got Cure II, and maybe more I think, but they could actually heal themselves for a reasonable amount in a pinch, however in XIV your Cure will only hit for about 250.... Out of 6k+ hp 250 isn't even marginal... That said, the differences in a nutshell for me are PLD is a mitigation tank while WAR is a sponge. WAR has the HP to soak up dmg whereas a PLD wants to minimize the dmg instead of soak it. IMO though WAR's have the upper hand in tanking multiples(Overpower), and PLD has the upper hand when tanking single target in terms of enmity generation. But in reality as already mentioned tanks currently are in a pretty good place in XIV... Pretty close all in, other than the simple fact that overpower is overpowered <- XD

[Thorauku]

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Enmity generation isn't even an issue anymore.

[Bixby]

The two tanks have the same effective HP, and nearly the same effective healing received. There's no secret sauce synergy between one healer and one tank or the other healer and the other tank. Healers do the same things with (nearly) the same effects for pretty much every situation except for Hallowed Ground vs. Holmgang.

They're balanced. They've both viable, capable, in demand, useful, etc. for everything. Pick the one you like and don't stress.

[ZodiacSoldier]

Which class is more needed?
Both class are needed, in 4 man content PLD and WAR are interchangeable. In 8 man content most group will want 1 of each to provide their respective debuff and also so that they won't get hit by the Limit Break penalty. Some group may want Double PLD for Hallowed Ground if they are newer to that content.

Which class is preferable?
Like I said both classes are interchangeable, and work equally as well. PLD negates more damage due to Shield Oath, but WAR has more HP and is healed for more due to defiance. PLD also has a few more cooldowns then WAR, but WAR gets Inner beast which is more or less a mini heal + defense cooldown in one, very useful. WAR are also alot better at AOE tanking, Steel Cyclone and Overpower is amazing for AOE hate.

Which class is least played?
Before the WAR buff, everyone was a PLD. With the buff, I have been seeing alot of people leveling WAR. In endgame however they are pretty equal.


Warrior or Paladin?
Just play the one you enjoy more, I have both PLD and WAR at ilevel 90 and use them both. WAR is a little more fun though cause they have more combos, for PLD you will be just spamming Rage of Halone combo 90% of the time. If you are in a raid group you might also want to see what class is the other Tank, if he is a WAR, you be the PLD and vice versa.

[Anienai]

Which class is least played?
Before the WAR buff, baddies played PLD. With the buff, I have been seeing alot of people catching concussions jumping off the PLD bandwagon and leveling WAR. In endgame however they are pretty equal.

Fixed that for ya.

[Soulburn32]

Level both and have both equally geared.

[Maelwys]

Level both and have both equally geared.

That.

For endgame "solo tank" situations, people will generally prefer Paladins for Progression content (when they're learning and it's new) and Warriors for content that is "on farm".
Mainly due to Warriors being able to perform best when you can predict what is going to happen during the fight - Inner Beast is no good if you can't time it before the big hits, for example.

For 8-man raids with two tanks, you'll usually want one Warrior and one Paladin.

[Asdamine]

Can WAR silence btw? I don't think it could. Probably the only down side of being a WAR. Other than that, I see no faults in playing either class.

[Ooshima]

Can WAR silence btw? I don't think it could. Probably the only down side of being a WAR. Other than that, I see not faults in play either class.

WARs can't, but there isn't a need for a PLD to use silence. Most instances that requires a silence will call in a BRD.

Right now the only instance where PLD have an advantage for having silence is Pharos Sirus.

[whiskeybravo]

WARs can't, but there isn't a need for a PLD to use silence. Most instances that requires a silence will call in a BRD.

Right now the only instance where PLD have an advantage for having silence is Pharos Sirus.

ADS requires either PLD and BRD, or 2 BRD. War can't MT it unless there are 2 BRD. As for Pharos, Lunatic Voice or whatever it's called can be stunned, it doesn't need to be silenced.

(As for Monk solo silence, I've heard it can be done but have yet to see it actually happen)