I want Wyverns back!!

[SinnersCreed]

I'm sure there are a lot of people that just screw it up terribly, because they are either new to the style, are very young, lazy, or just not capable. but I'm not one of those people, I always do my research and I practice with damage calculators to verify rotations and could probably write strategy guides on this game with a lot of boring work. I just need to punch in numbers.. pretty simple but a lot of work.
Sadly ANYONE has the same ability but most don't care or are too lazy. So say what you want about my experience in this game, but I would be willing to bet a good sum that any non pvp rotation in ff14 couldn't possibly be more complex than most of the macros I have set up for some of my other games.

[Gamemako]

Ishgard military is made up of Dragoons this is true and you come up with good points. But like any city they could be people within ishgard that no longer believe in killing dragoons they find and build there own small city and a new job is born. One that no longer kills them but befriends and learn how to fight along side them. You think that SE can't come up with some bull why this happens?

They can, but the story takes you into Coerthas alongside the fanatical inquisitors who execute people on mere suspicion of sympathy for the dragons. You can't possibly go back to the city-state of Ishgard after you've befriended a wyvern -- all Ishgardians who see you would be obligated to attack on sight. Reconciliation would be technically possible, but then you would have to separate the players who completed that stage from those who have not, so that you aren't discussing the inquisition right next to some guy traipsing about with a dragon over his shoulder.

Also you keep talking about how you have a movement heavy job attempting to simultaneously control a pet. I don't think that a issue at all the pet could do it's own thing for the most part.

Long story short, they don't. Your pet does not differentiate between standing in the fire and not standing in the fire. It can't make a judgment as to when it should be on the platform and when it can afford to take a few points of damage to get across. It doesn't enjoy heals like everything else and can't be directly targeted by your healers. You can spot a fledgling SMN from a mile away; their pets die very, very frequently.

I'm sorry but I'm all for the way jobs were structured in classic FF titles, and I hate to break it to you but Dragoons never had wyvern pets.

The very first dragoons, from FF2, were wyvern-riders. The Emperor wiped them out, along with the wyverns.

First off I never claimed to be an expert after reading a guide, second off if you are trying to tell me that this game is so different that I wouldn't understand how rotations with buffs and debuffs which require timing work well you can stop right there. I know all I need to know about the game to make eduacated guesses and the only thing I don't know is the timing because I havent hit 50 yet. Big deal...

Having not played DRG at endgame, you've never had to fit your rotation into the many mechanics designed to stop you from doing so. You are telling everyone how easy something is without having done it.

[SinnersCreed]

Having not played DRG at endgame, you've never had to fit your rotation into the many mechanics designed to stop you from doing so. You are telling everyone how easy something is without having done it.[/QUOTE]

Granted I have never done it on this game, and I never actually said it was "easy" just said everyone shouldn't make it sound like its the hardest thing ever, However My point remains the same : I DO understand how rotations with buffs and debuffs which require timing work" and The fact thatI haven't done them yet is hardly discrediting to my understanding of the basics AND complexities of an atb with buffs, debuffs and counters, defensive and offensive CDs and GCDs. it's basically like saying I dont know how to drive a European car if I am from America. There is only so much I would need to learn and most of which I can make eduacated guesses.

[Mhaeric]

Dont be so retarded... dont you think that I already looked up rotation and seen the 24 button cycle? found the off cycles and checked stat priorities, mat builds? if you check my original post it says that I have been playing these games for over 14 years... pretty sure I know wtf I'm talking about, thx.

Doubtful, because you sound like you're only 14 years old let alone played MMOs for that long. But I get it. You like to be big and mighty on the internet with your swearing and trash talk. Its unfortunate, because I was going to respond to your first post constructively. But since I can't read any of what you wrote in any posts after that without imagining it being said with a cracking voice and only one hand on the keyboard, you get this instead.

Cheers.

[Edellis]

Someone hasn't made it to coearthas yet. This request literally makes no sense in the context of FFXIV.

[Zenaku]

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It seem no matter what people say you against seem to be a thing in any topic when people want something to be added. It's a MMO from 1.0 to 2.0 patch the storyline have been change many times to the point that it no longer fit together. They could easy make it work there no issue they may not add it now maybe not in 2years but at some point they could. If it make people happy and add more to the game i don't see why not. Stop thinking so close minded let people enjoy the game and request what they want.

If it does not work yoshi-p would say no and that it but too then why not talk about it and come up with ways they could add it. Second Class with a job that have a wyvern or add it on lancer as a second job does not matter as long as they add more jobs and more storyline i be happy.

[Gamemako]

It seem like w/e anyone come up with you just against it no matter what.

You are providing half-baked solutions to the myriad problems with the concept. There is no feasible way to fit a wyvern-wielding job into the lore without changing the entirety of the storyline as it stands now or sending every post-story character to an island from which they can never return. It is not a small lore problem, or a small mechanical problem. I've already explained what to expect from any potential melee pet job. While I think a lot of his design is poor, a mid-range job like MartaDemireux's BST/BLU concept would be infinitely more feasible than LNC.

It seem like everytime someone come up with a idea to add more stuff to the game. There always people hell no it's like don't we want more stuff to do?

There are plenty of good ideas around. This is not one of them.

[Themis]

Unfortunately, the lore does not support Dragoons having a wyvern/dragon based pet. If it did, and the mechanics/balance was set up to cater for it, then they would already have one. It's too late to change the story behind them now, because the lore behind Dragoon is very deeply tied into Ishgard and the dragons they are at war with.

It is something you will have to deal with. This isn't FFXI. The background is different, and there is simply no room for placing a pet onto Dragoons. Not to mention the change in the balance, that having a pet would inevitably result in, would cause a lot of problems for players. As someone who enjoys the XIV Dragoon, I'd be part of that group.

[Tanama]

I want Wyverns back!! And my biggest problem so far is the lack of wyverns for the Dragoon.

I disagree. As it has been stated already by others, Lancer/Dragoon would have to be changed to balance around the addition of a pet.

We can have a battle chocobo but no Wyvern? ludicrous!

See, this is something Yoshi-P could add in the future if he decide to expand on the Companions system. A wyvern or any other battle ready companion would fit under the those circumstances.

Personally, I would like for the FFXI DRG wyvern to make an appearance in Eorzea, but as a minion.

[ArkhamNative]

I always wondered why there was no wyvern minion, and if that was because it was going to be added as an actual pet or chocobo buddy alternative. Now that I've had over a year to think about it and play the game, I'm thinking none of that will happen any time soon, for several reasons. First, Ishgard is not only at war with the dragons, but part of the main scenario is based on that fact. Second, a lot of people started FF with FFXI (like me) and don't realize that FF Dragoons usually don't have dragon/wyvern/wyrm pets. (Just like "-ga" for spells doesn't mean AOE (but that's another topic).)