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    I do have them, but I'll never use it. I'd rather use the potion cooldown for something more useful like the mega-potion of X stats.

    If the healers are running OOM they're totally doing something wrong, probably over-healing.
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    on turn 4 I use an elixir to get a 3rd flare off on the rook/spider phase.
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    As a SCH, I have some Ethers that I've never used. They're on a bar... I just can't be bothered to pop them. Maybe I could try remembering them next time I get Raised...
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    Fate Raines
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnunit View Post
    I was in Ultima Hard Mode, and the other healer wasn't that great with MP management. So, he kept bothering the Bard for Ballad, but the Bard was out of MP himself because of Ballad. So i told the Bard to use an Ether, then Battlevoice + Ballad, but he said he doesn't carry them. I told the other healer to pop an Ether then, he said he didn't carry them either.

    I carry them, but only use them for emergency situations, but I was wondering if anyone else feels the game mechanics don't really push people to feel the need to carry meds.
    i do i always have elixirs on me pop when mp is low little hp recover doest hurt either, it been the deference from the team winning rather then wiping
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    I keep em in my inventory and add them to my extra hotbar when doing Turn 2 Enrage. I don't always need them, but in a PUG, there's always a chance it could be the last morsel of MP that makes up for the ever so slight lack of DPS or over healing.
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    If you need any kind of medicine on Ultima HM....that is not good....if you need to put up Ballad that much...Healers don't know how to play their job correctly and our over healing a bunch. I just don't know sometimes.
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    I use ethers all the time on BLM. Same for pots of INT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikedizzy View Post
    If you need any kind of medicine on Ultima HM....that is not good....if you need to put up Ballad that much...Healers don't know how to play their job correctly and our over healing a bunch. I just don't know sometimes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    I do have them, but I'll never use it. I'd rather use the potion cooldown for something more useful like the mega-potion of X stats.

    If the healers are running OOM they're totally doing something wrong, probably over-healing.
    Tell me, oh wise ones: do you know why healers go OOM on any fight (much less Ultima)? Many times it's because they have to resurrect players who do not know what they're doing. When you have a fight like Ultima with an enrage timer, you can't just whittle away at his HP with 2 DPS up like you can in Titan HM without bothering to raise the wasted space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitome View Post
    I use ethers all the time on BLM. Same for pots of INT.




    Tell me, oh wise ones: do you know why healers go OOM on any fight (much less Ultima)? Many times it's because they have to resurrect players who do not know what they're doing. When you have a fight like Ultima with an enrage timer, you can't just whittle away at his HP with 2 DPS up like you can in Titan HM without bothering to raise the wasted space.

    Agree'd. But on the flipside, it is possible to have bad healers as well. Take myself for example, as I love running around CT shouting in /a about my rampant misuse of holy and AoE heals. Of course in real content where true effort is required, Raise is the usual cause of my oom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    Agree'd. But on the flipside, it is possible to have bad healers as well. Take myself for example, as I love running around CT shouting in /a about my rampant misuse of holy and AoE heals. Of course in real content where true effort is required, Raise is the usual cause of my oom.
    Completely agree. I'm a terrible WHM, for instance, and generally would have trouble with MP management compared to my SCH. I also see the opposite side of things: the other healer has full MP while I'm sitting at 1000 MP because he isn't doing anything.

    But even on SCH when I have to raise more than 5 people in an Ultima run, I'm probably going to have some mana issues unless the tanks are geared.
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    Sirantha Swift
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitome View Post
    I also see the opposite side of things: the other healer has full MP while I'm sitting at 1000 MP because he isn't doing anything.
    While I've seen this myself, don't always assume that the other healer being on next to full MP is doing nothing. I've been accused of doing nothing before due to having almost full MP during a fight because I've been getting lucky with Freecure procs and am focusing on Cure I rather than II, whereas my other healer is spamming Cure II every time a tank takes some damage. It is possible to manage your MP quite easily.

    With regards to the topic, I don't find I need Ether that often. Once you learn to manage your MP, there are very few situations where I find it necessary. Though after having to Raise a bunch of people, SoS and MB will only go so far.
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